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|  boljer Registered Member
 Date Joined Oct 2001 Total Posts : 18 | Posted 3/9/2002 5:15 PM (GMT -6) |   | I was just thinking of the whole idea of death to self as portrayed in the Bible. I'm just beginning to understand what Jesus meant when He said this must happen as we are His disciples. So many of the things we do today are done out of the flesh or self efforts to try and please or acheive merit with God. (EVEN GOOD THINGS) The programs in the churches, all done in "Jesus name" some to me are just done out of the flesh. Some of our good things that we do--random acts of kindness, "love", etc.. are done from our flesh---it's like rotted meat that we're trying to season up and spice up to look pretty--we're trying to make ourselves look better---God sees that our Flesh or sinful nature is rotten and stinky...He wants to replace that flesh---to throw it out so that we become absolutley nothing and helpless without Christ--just as he was forsaked, emptied , helpless on the cross...HE wants to become every thing in us so all that we do is produced by HIs spirit not our flesh-(the fruits of the SPIRIT)--then and only then will we walk in true humility, holiness, power(like the N.T. church....I am just beggining to understand the implications of this and I think it's huge....Please pray for the churches in America that we become nothing,,completely dependant on GOd so that IN HIM we move and live and have our being--not our flesh!!!
Jered P. Boley | | Back to Top | | |
 |  One Love Registered Member

Date Joined Jan 2003 Total Posts : 13888 | Posted 6/8/2007 12:09 PM (GMT -6) |   | | I will pray for this very real issue, sir.
I will pray.
Thank you for your words. "My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, that all of them may be One, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be One as we are One— I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete UNIty. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me."
For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God. The Spirit you received does not make you slaves, so that you live in fear again; rather, the Spirit you received brought about your adoption to SONship. And by him we cry, "Abba, Father." The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children. Now if we are children, then we are heirs—heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory. | | Back to Top | | |
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