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Mozart
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Date Joined Jan 2004
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Posted 1/30/2004 9:48 AM (GMT -6)

Hello,I was debating a fellow student at the Bible college I attended and found his view on the trinity very confusing. The conversation began as a classic calvinism vs Arminianism debate. He described God as controlling everything and he even said Satan was Gods lapdog. This I expected,yet, the way he hadled the trinity confused me. He holds that God the fathers foreknowledge extends to everything, and that he predestines people to their eternal destination.However, he holds that Jesus does not have Foreknowledge and wants to save everyone. I am not sure if the holyspirit has complete foreknowledge in his view or not. The old testament passages that depict God as changing his mind refers to Christ, and so on. The trinity is hard enough to understand, but when you look at it like this fellow it complicates it even more. Its almost like God is schizophrenic. what are some of youre thoughts. Bandit

Matthew Timothy Short
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Date Joined Apr 2002
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Posted 1/31/2004 2:15 AM (GMT -6)

Jhn 10:30I and [my] Father are one.

Jhn 6:38For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

Jhn 7:16Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.

Col 1:19For it pleased [the Father] that in him should all fulness dwell;

Col 2:9For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Hbr 1:3Who being the brightness of [his] glory, and the express image of his person . . .

Imagination projects unreal images out of the mind and seeks to attach reality to them. Faith creates nothing; it simply reckons upon that which is already there.

PotOnWheel
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Date Joined Jul 2001
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Posted 1/31/2004 7:22 AM (GMT -6)

ON THIS WEBSITE:

Is the Incarnation self-contradictory?
http://www.gregboyd.org/gbfront/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1642&whichpage=1

Christology: The Unchartered Openness Issue
http://www.gregboyd.org/gbfront/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=668&whichpage=1
(This thread contains a series of posts with text from Bishop Kallistos Ware's "The Orthodox Way". Ware recently retired from teaching at Oxford Univ. in England. He is regarded as one of the most knowledgeable westerners re: Eastern Orthodox, in which he is a Bishop.)

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