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BBBCanada
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Posted 6/6/2010 9:40 PM (GMT -6)

Justice Is Not Optional

Brandon

It is the purpose that makes strong the vow, but vows to every purpose must not hold.--A friend.

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Posted 6/7/2010 2:22 AM (GMT -6)

From here...

	BAHA'I "Blessed are those who prefer others before themselves." -- Baha'u'llah, Tablets of Baha'u'llah, 71		BUDDHISM "Hurt not others in ways that you yourself would find hurtful." -- Udana-Varga, 5:18
	CHRISTIANITY "So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets." -- Jesus, Matthew 7:12		CONFUCIANISM "Do not unto others what you would not have them do unto you." -- Analects 15:23
	HINDUISM "This is the sum of all duty: do not do to others what would cause pain if done to you." -- Mahabharata 5:1517		ISLAM "No one of you is a believer until you desire for another that which you desire for yourself" -- Sunnah
	JAINISM "In happiness and suffering, in joy and grief, regard all creatures as you would regard your own self." -- Lord Mahavir 24th Tirthankara		JUDAISM "What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor, That is the entire Torah; all the rest is commentary." -- Talmud, Shabbat 31a
	NATIVE AMERICAN "Respect for all life is the foundation" -- The Great Law of Peace		SIKHISM "Be not estranged from another for God dwells in every heart." -- Sri Guru Granth Sahib
	ZOROASTRIANISM "Human nature is good only when it does not do unto another whatever is no good for its own self." -- Dadistan-i-Dinik, 94:5		WICCAN "Everything you do, whether positive or negative, is returned to you threefold." -- The Threefold Law

Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.

Post Edited (One Love) : 6/7/2010 2:26:18 AM (GMT-5)

One Love
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Posted 6/7/2010 2:37 AM (GMT -6)

Now, with similiarities like this, spanning various religious perspectives over various places and times...I'd bet this is an expression of the Image of God in all human beings. It's just an aspect of the Creator Himself echoing within every human spirit. And I don't see how the image can be fully expressed in individuals or communities without "doing justice, loving kindness, and walking humbly" before our Creator.

We can't be FULLY HUMAN (meaning LIKE GOD) without it.

Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.

Post Edited (One Love) : 6/7/2010 2:43:02 AM (GMT-5)

BBBCanada
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Posted 6/7/2010 11:55 AM (GMT -6)

Did you watch the video at all? If so, what did you think about it?

Brandon

It is the purpose that makes strong the vow, but vows to every purpose must not hold.--A friend.

To love without love is slavery--Mother Teresa

One Love
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Posted 6/7/2010 11:58 AM (GMT -6)

Uh...yes, I watched the video. He was humorous and poignant at same time. I loved it and agreed. I saw that he mentioned Isaiah 60, too.

What was I supposed to see?

Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.

BBBCanada
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Posted 6/7/2010 12:04 PM (GMT -6)

See, I agree with these guys about justice being grounded in creation. Persons and living things should be given their proper due. As he mentioned, he treats his cat in its "catiness." You don't treat a person like a cat. That would not be justice. Cool. My problem it seems is that I think even this groundedness goes deeper than that. And that is the groundedness in God. That doesn't mean that I'm not on board totally with these thinkers. I just think that that creational reality could be further developed in these sorts of discussions. Does that make sense to you? That creational diversity and hence justice is itself grounded in something beyond creation.

Brandon

It is the purpose that makes strong the vow, but vows to every purpose must not hold.--A friend.

To love without love is slavery--Mother Teresa

One Love
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Posted 6/7/2010 12:12 PM (GMT -6)

Brandon:
I just think that that creational reality could be further developed in these sorts of discussions. Does that make sense to you? That creational diversity and hence justice is itself grounded in something beyond creation.

Oh, absolutely. I was just talking to a friend of mine about this with Reconciliation issues. It develops (and intensifies) the convo greatly. If you notice, most of the people that we are dealing with do NOT seem to have an Eastern view of Grace...hence, one can see the influence on their praxis.

Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.

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