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Truth Aficionado
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Date Joined Dec 2003
Total Posts : 1544
| Posted 5/4/2004 3:57 AM (GMT -6) |   | quote:
Originally posted by moon_river_j
Catchy term; "fetishsizing." Though I'm not sure I understand it totally. I'd forgotten about the phrase "reworking the memory." Thanks for reminding me Mark.
God Bless!
Jo-Anne 
Hello Jo-Anne,
I think we tend to associate more with the third definition of "fetish". It becomes quite different when you apply the first definition to Sisters of Cain's quote "fetishsizing Scripture".
Peace,
Mark
fetish
fet·ish [féttish]
or fet·ich [féttish] (plural fet·ich·es)
n
1. magical object: something, especially an inanimate object, that some people revere or worship because they believe it has magical powers or is animated by a spirit
2. object of obsession: an object, idea, or activity that somebody is irrationally obsessed with or attached to
make a fetish of neatness
3. psychiatry object arousing sexual desire: something, for example, an inanimate object or nonsexual part of the body that arouses sexual excitement in some people
[Early 17th century. Via French fétiche “charm, sorcery” from, ultimately, Latin factitius “made by art, artificial” (see factitious).]
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Sisters of Cain
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Date Joined Mar 2004
Total Posts : 431
| Posted 5/4/2004 4:47 AM (GMT -6) | | quote:
Originally posted by sparknheart
quote:
Originally posted by moon_river_j
Catchy term; "fetishsizing." Though I'm not sure I understand it totally. I'd forgotten about the phrase "reworking the memory." Thanks for reminding me Mark.
God Bless!
Jo-Anne
Hello Jo-Anne,
I think we tend to associate more with the third definition of "fetish". It becomes quite different when you apply the first definition to Sisters of Cain's quote "fetishsizing Scripture".
Peace,
Mark
fetish
fet·ish [féttish]
or fet·ich [féttish] (plural fet·ich·es)
n
1. magical object: something, especially an inanimate object, that some people revere or worship because they believe it has magical powers or is animated by a spirit
Exactly.
John 5:39 "You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me;"
Our life is NOT in scripture itself but in Jesus. Scripture is just a tool that leads us to Jesus and keeps us grounded in Him.
"And the spirit said to Philip, Go up and join his chariot" (Act.8:29).
"for all who are lead by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God" (Rom.8:14)
"and the Spirit of Jesus did not permit it" (Act.16:7).
"He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches" (Rev.2:7)."
" The Holy Spirit said: Set apart for Me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them" (Rom.8:26).
"For to us God revealed them through the Spirit; for the spirit searches all things, even the depths of God. For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the spirit of the man, which is in him? Even so the thoughts of God no one knows except the Spirit of God" 1Cor.2:10-11).
"And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever - the Spirit of truth" (John 14:16-17)
"However, when He, the Spirit of Truth, as come, He will guide you into all truth" (John 16:13)
"... I am with you always, even to the end of the age" (Matthew 28:20)
"Whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven" (Matthew 16:19)
"... it has now been revealed by the Spirit to His holy apostles and prophets" (Ephesians 3:5)
"... the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth" (1 Timothy 3:15)
Since scripture doesn't say much about the zillions of specific things we deal with, we have to live by the Spirit and the general principles laid down in scripture.
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spenlake
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Date Joined Jan 2004
Total Posts : 1050
| Posted 5/4/2004 3:22 PM (GMT -6) | | quote:
Originally posted by Sisters of Cain
quote:
Originally posted by sparknheart
quote:
Originally posted by moon_river_j
Catchy term; "fetishsizing." Though I'm not sure I understand it totally. I'd forgotten about the phrase "reworking the memory." Thanks for reminding me Mark.
God Bless!
Jo-Anne
Hello Jo-Anne,
I think we tend to associate more with the third definition of "fetish". It becomes quite different when you apply the first definition to Sisters of Cain's quote "fetishsizing Scripture".
Peace,
Mark
fetish
fet·ish [féttish]
or fet·ich [féttish] (plural fet·ich·es)
n
1. magical object: something, especially an inanimate object, that some people revere or worship because they believe it has magical powers or is animated by a spirit
Exactly.
John 5:39 "You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me;"
Our life is NOT in scripture itself but in Jesus. Scripture is just a tool that leads us to Jesus and keeps us grounded in Him.
"And the spirit said to Philip, Go up and join his chariot" (Act.8:29).
"for all who are lead by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God" (Rom.8:14)
"and the Spirit of Jesus did not permit it" (Act.16:7).
"He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches" (Rev.2:7)."
" The Holy Spirit said: Set apart for Me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them" (Rom.8:26).
"For to us God revealed them through the Spirit; for the spirit searches all things, even the depths of God. For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the spirit of the man, which is in him? Even so the thoughts of God no one knows except the Spirit of God" 1Cor.2:10-11).
"And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever - the Spirit of truth" (John 14:16-17)
"However, when He, the Spirit of Truth, as come, He will guide you into all truth" (John 16:13)
"... I am with you always, even to the end of the age" (Matthew 28:20)
"Whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven" (Matthew 16:19)
"... it has now been revealed by the Spirit to His holy apostles and prophets" (Ephesians 3:5)
"... the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth" (1 Timothy 3:15)
Since scripture doesn't say much about the zillions of specific things we deal with, we have to live by the Spirit and the general principles laid down in scripture.
Thank you Sister for such wonderful passages.
"for all who are lead by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God" (Rom.8:14) Those that are led by the Spirit of God are those that believe in and confess the Christ described to us by the apostles and witnesses that gave us the New Testament. Those that confess a "spiritual christ" and find power to forgive in false history are led by a different spirit.
"He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches" (Rev.2:7)." What the Spirit said to the churches was written down in the message that John gave to us. You can bank on it. Those words are what the Spirit had to communicate to us and for us to listen to.
" The Holy Spirit said: Set apart for Me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them" (Rom.8:26). And they did. These men gave us the New Testament and proclaimed the gospel to the Gentiles. Paul had seen the risen Christ and objectively qualified as an apostle as he states in 1 Co 9:1, "Am I not an apostle? Have I not seen Jesus our Lord? Are you not my work in the Lord? If to others I am not an apostle, at least I am to you; for you are the seal of my apostleship in the Lord."
"For to us God revealed them through the Spirit; for the spirit searches all things, even the depths of God. For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the spirit of the man, which is in him? Even so the thoughts of God no one knows except the Spirit of God" 1Cor.2:10-11). The same Spirit that gave us the scriptures. He is consistent with the truth. He is the Spirit of truth and does not give us false historical records in which we are to find freedom.
"And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever - the Spirit of truth" (John 14:16-17) Thus, in this passage we see that if a Spirit brings the false for our comfort, it cannot be the Spirit of Truth.
"However, when He, the Spirit of Truth, as come, He will guide you into all truth" (John 16:13) The Spirit that we have seen in the example of Dr. Boyd guides him into the false so that he can experience healing. I don't read that here.
"... I am with you always, even to the end of the age" (Matthew 28:20) And His word abides forever.
"Whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven" (Matthew 16:19) Binding and loosing, in the Jewish context this was spoken in, always refers to whether a certain action is according to the Law or not, most often Sabbath laws. Every single reputable commentary will back that up. We are simply to reflect the Laws that He has given us in His objective Word.
"... it has now been revealed by the Spirit to His holy apostles and prophets" (Ephesians 3:5) I believe that this is true. These very same men to whom He gave the revelation of the gospel have communicated it to us so that we too might believe and find freedom. Jesus, became man and died in our place, we have forgiveness of our sins in His work on the cross. This is the mystery that was not revealed until His coming.
"... the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth" (1 Timothy 3:15) Those that bring false history into the church and call it "resting in Christ" should sincerley heed this passage and see that such "therapy" has no place in the church of God but should remain with men.
Spen Lake
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