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honorman
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Posted 7/28/2003 5:26 PM (GMT -6)

Opinions please...
http://www.msnbc.com/news/945134.asp

BBBCanada
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Posted 7/29/2003 2:47 AM (GMT -6)

honorman,

Let's just say that there is A LOT of sexual confusion at THAT age--the teen years. What the school does in my opinion, is not help them have a "healthy" view of sexuality. It rather endorses one side and sees it as natural, etc. In turn, these children are affirmed in their (confused state) orientation and basically "recruited" into that particular lifestyle.

Brandon

Laika
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Posted 7/29/2003 2:50 AM (GMT -6)

quote:
Originally posted by BBBCanada

honorman,

Let's just say that there is A LOT of sexual confusion at THAT age--the teen years. What the school does in my opinion, is not help them have a "healthy" view of sexuality. It rather endorses one side and sees it as natural, etc. In turn, these children are affirmed in their (confused state) orientation and basically "recruited" into that particular lifestyle.

At that age? Man, 21 years of marriage, two kids and I'm still confused about sex. How did we get those kids again, honey?

BBBCanada
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Posted 7/29/2003 2:57 AM (GMT -6)

Well if you are still confused about sex after 21 years of marriage? Then you need therapy bud. Big Smile

And so does your wife. Wink

Brandon

Laika
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Posted 7/29/2003 3:02 AM (GMT -6)

Come on BBBBrandon, admit it. When we read that article on the gay high school, our first thought was:

"an ARTS program? no WAY"

BBBCanada
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Posted 7/29/2003 3:09 AM (GMT -6)

Bingo! Shouldn't it be another branch of government recruitment say like the Army?

Brandon

PotOnWheel
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Posted 7/29/2003 4:48 AM (GMT -6)

quote:
Originally posted by BBBCanada

honorman,

Let's just say that there is A LOT of sexual confusion at THAT age--the teen years. What the school does in my opinion, is not help them have a "healthy" view of sexuality. It rather endorses one side and sees it as natural, etc. In turn, these children are affirmed in their (confused state) orientation and basically "recruited" into that particular lifestyle.

Brandon

I agree with Brandon. Having taught ART in a few Chicago area high schools, I've seen the kind of presures that are brought to bear on kids.

Kids are, in every respect, so much in the stream of transformation...which (as an old collge prof. of then years I say this) continues for several more years too.

Besides the boxing-in of sexual identity, the whole "GOTH" thing is also unhealthy. So's the jock thing.

We humans are by nature so wonderfully many-facited.

NOTHING THAT RETARDS THE BLOOMING OF ALL THOSE FACETS IS HEALTHY.

DLW
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Posted 7/29/2003 7:50 AM (GMT -6)

This is from a friend.

A Fox news article (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,93060,00.html)
is reporting that the New York City Board of Education itself funded the
renovation of the building that will house the school. They spent about
3.2 million to renovate the building. It's unclear how much the
Hetrick-Martin Institute is contributing to the school's funding. It
will open this fall with enrollment of about 100 students. By next
year, the school administrator hopes enrollment will go up to at least
170. The school is what I would call a magnet school with a curriculum
weighted towards classes in technology, culinary arts, and fine arts,
but also covering the basics of reading, math, and social studies.

Anyway, in short, the school is both privately and publicly financed
(like a charter school) and its curriculum is specialized (like a magnet
school). If New York City taxpayers don't like it, they are free to
elect School Board members who will shut it down.

I-uh-scream-uh,
You-uh-scream-uh,
We-all-uh-sceam-uh for
Ice-uh-cream-uh!!!

Roberto Bernigni in
Down by Law.

I wish we didn't live in a world where buying and selling things (especially selling) seems to have become almost more important than either producing or using them.

C.S. Lewis

John Earp
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Posted 7/29/2003 7:08 PM (GMT -6)

I see no good reason why they would need their own school.

"The Discovery of new truth will modify old views and opinions, and there is perhaps no end to this process with finite minds in any world." Charles G. Finney, Systematic Theology.

revivaltheology.net

S.B.G.
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Posted 8/13/2003 10:29 AM (GMT -6)

Although I can understand the desire to escape whatever ridicule and rejection homosexuals might experience in a public school, the concept undermines the desire of the gay movement to be given equal rights.

What this is actually doing is creating a new segregation determined this time by sexuality instead of skin color.

Ultimately, I don't think it will serve to bring people together. Rather, it is enforcing a greater separation between homosexuals and heterosexuals and potentially resentment that homosexuals are receiving special--not equal-- rights.

S.B.G.

"We need every different bead on this same string." Nicole Nordeman

Tigress
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Posted 8/14/2003 6:44 AM (GMT -6)

I feel really bad that homophobes have driven gays and lesbians to the point where they feel the need to have a seperate learning institution to be safe. I believe homosexuality and lesbianism is wrong and a sin, but obviously I don't believe in persecuting those who struggle with it either. This will only create a larger rift between gays and those who could have shared the Gospel with them at schools where gays and straights can learn together.

Tigress

"Name a shrub after me. Preferably one that's prickly and difficult to eradicate."

-Captain Jack Aubrey
"Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World"

Laika
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Posted 8/14/2003 6:51 AM (GMT -6)

[quote]Originally posted by Tigress

Tigress, you need brackets around your tiger icon.
[ and ], no spaces between them and tg^1

inside you the time moves and she don't fade
the ghost in you she don't fade

Tigress
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Posted 8/14/2003 7:19 AM (GMT -6)

quote:
Originally posted by Laika

[quote]Originally posted by Tigress

Tigress, you need brackets around your tiger icon.
[ and ], no spaces between them and tg^1

Yaaaaaaaayyyyy! Thanks Laika!

Tigress

"Name a shrub after me. Preferably one that's prickly and difficult to eradicate."

-Captain Jack Aubrey
"Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World"

DLW
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Posted Today 9:47 AM (GMT -6)

Cross dress crime hits gay school

Edward Helmore in New York
Sunday November 9, 2003
The Observer

Just two months after America's first gay and lesbian high school opened in Manhattan, it has been embarrassed by the arrests of five transgender students for posing as female prostitutes and robbing their clients.
Police said the five teenagers from Harvey Milk High School, wearing wigs, earrings and make-up, approached men in Manhattan's West Village. Posing as undercover vice cops, they stripped their victims of credit cards and cash.

The handcuff-toting teens worked in teams of two or three. Once they had an interested client, they would flash 'Special Police' badges, telling them they could escape arrest in exchange for their money, cards and PIN numbers. At least five such robberies netted the cross-dressing crew some $3,000.

'You couldn't put this in a book - nobody would believe it,' said the New York Mayor, Michael Bloomberg.

Five 17-year-olds have been charged with robbery and impersonating a police officer.

Police suspect that the gang may have carried out dozens of unreported crimes. Teachers and students now fear a backlash against the school. One transgender student, Chocolate, said: 'There are people out there who want to close down our school just looking for an excuse.'

Niebuhr thought that sustained moral energy in politics depended on religion's power to mobilize reason along with self-transcending love. The prophetic tradition, meanwhile, gave Jews and Christians some protection against the temptation to identify their social causes with God's will. Lincoln's second inaugural address expressed the prophetic insight, "The almighty has His own purposes."

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