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BJS
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| Posted 7/3/2002 5:13 AM (GMT -6) |   | quote:
In ancient religion--like Egypt--some of the minor deities had names like "truth" and "justice." Against THAT kind of historical backdrop (like Doc mentioning that America has in some/many ways a deistic heritage) s statement like "One nation UNDER GOD" can simply but forcefully mean that we are all under the same divine laws. THAT is important. Even in the statue, "Justice" is blind to the particular identity of individual. (CEOs watch out!) Without the "under God" the part about "one nation" goes up on the auction block.
Of course, our nation should be "under God"---but in DEEDS, not just WORDS. The words in our pledge have virtually nothing to do with the spiritual status of this country. Nothing. Did we suddenly become a nation "under God" in 1954 because Eisenhower inserted those words into the pledge? Of course not. If we have ever been a nation "under God" it would have had nothing to do with the pledge of allegiance.
[By the way, PoW, my intent is not to ascribe to you a particular position on this. I am only responding to what SEEMS to be the message of your post. Please correct me if I have mistaken your point. ]
Brett
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 7/3/2002 6:09 AM (GMT -6) | | I like what you said, Brett. Maybe they just go together. (or you read more closely than I what I wrote?) Lincoln would be a good one to quote, so as to handle the range and dissonances that we live with: "better angels" and "with ___ to none, and with charity towards all" (is that right?).
I VERY much like what you said, Brett. What I'd posted definitely needed it!
And, of course we know that we need more than that -- we need Christ. And bibical revelation tells us that in "rain falling on the just and the unjust" God works for something more lasting. | | Back to Top | | |
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BBBCanada
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| Posted 7/4/2002 6:23 AM (GMT -6) | | Brett said:
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Rather, we should be working for legitimate, authentic spiritual renewal in this country, beginning with (1) ourSELVES, (2) our own families, (3) those we can love and care for through the ministries that we can involve ourselves in.
Gonna try and hit on this a little more thoroughly today. But I got a question for ya.
Isn't this one of the objectives of the Moral Majority?
You seem to speak as if the Moral Majority or whoever is wanting to "restore God back into the schools" through prayer in school or the Pledge of Allegiance are not concerned about families (usually that is the Moral Majority). That they're pouring their time and energy into something that is so bland as some non-sectarian school prayer. This is most erroneous. The Moral Majority IS concerned about families. This is why they fight what they see as a "culture war" on the "family front" against what they perceive as a "homosexual agenda" against the family. Or they are trying to curb tax laws that they percieve that would weaken the family structure. So it is hardly accurate to say that they are not concentrating on this issue while concentrating on a some pithy one.
Back later...
Brandon
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