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What I'm saying is that there were what you call constitutional homosexuals in Paul's day, whether they were recognized as such or not, and they were still expected to not engage in sexual behavior of any kind in a homosexual way. To do so, would have been sin - just as it would be for straight people who chose to engage in gay and lesbian acts. No one can help who they're aroused by, so people who are mainly heterosexual and yet who sometimes get aroused by their same sex, are doing so because of something innate - just like those who are born strictly (constitutional) gay or lesbian. It's all the same - it's all sin. Stop trying to rationalize sin based on worldly pop psychology

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Anybody else wanna handle Tigress for awhile?

I don't know the statistics for Roman times(I doubt there are any), but constitutional homosexuality occurs for a rather small fraction of individuals, I'm sure that homosexual acts were far more common in Roman times.

All I'm saying is that Paul didn't know about how some people were constitutional homosexuals and would have taken into account that fact if he had known about it. This is not pop-psychology but rigorous science.

dlw

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I know it's "rigorous science" but that doesn't make it all right for people to live in sin. Pedophiles are born pedophiles but that doesn't make it alright. Sociopaths are born sociopaths but that doesn't make it alright. Homosexuals who are born homosexuals are still not allowed to just go ahead and sin. They just have to accept that their bodies or brains, or whatever caused them to be homosexual is a part of the Fall, and celibacy is a cross they have to bear if they want to be like Christ.

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Having ANY other sexual relationships outside of God's original plan of one man and one woman in marriage causes people's spirits to decay, they grow farther apart from God and each other, and it opens doors to Satan and his demons to attack them and keep them from being fruitful in God's Kingdom. Homosexual unions under any and all circumstances cause this, regardless of how you want to set it up. There's only one type of marital union that glorifies God and edifies the souls and spirits of those partaking of it, and that's between one man and one woman.

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