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Date Joined Dec 2003 Total Posts : 1544 | Posted 8/5/2005 11:25 AM (GMT -6) |   | |
Much has been said about the “rock bottom” experience and the influential role it plays in the process of turning people to God. Acknowledging our brokenness is certainly a very humbling wakeup call. We hear clichés such as “at the end of self is the beginning of God”. Humbling, sometimes it’s the utter realization of death row.
So what happens when we truly repent and place our trust in God? When this light bulb goes on and we “see the light” at the end of our rope we humbly relinquish our will to God while confessing we are powerless without Him. Then we ponder the true wonder of how we gradually slipped into the self-deception that treasures darkness as light and mistakes light for darkness. It’s when the Holy Spirit hits us in the face with a sobering cold splash of baptism water that our eyes start coming into focus. With the blood of Christ our conscience is cleansed, transforming us from the inside out. New doors of adventure are opened that journey us though inexplicable Technicolor. Sounds of birds singing and children playing suddenly have a different ring, as does the world’s outcry of pain and sorrow that takes on new life flowing to the nerve endings of our heart.
Ok burst my bubble, I know the last sentence comes and goes as we continually seek God and grow in spiritual maturity. I acknowledge old selfish habits are hard to break, but, with the help of God, we all can overcome strongholds that set us free as new creatures in Christ. It’s to taste life from God that keeps our nose yearning for the aroma of his presence. It’s about opening our senses and coming to our senses so we forever eat from the plate of God.
I wonder if this rock bottom experience is a common link of solidarity that all Christians share. Feedback would be greatly appreciated. Here are a few questions that come to mind:
- Did you have some type of a “rock bottom” experience that led you to Christ, please share?
- Do we have to wait for someone to fall into the pits of some hellish experience before they hit rock bottom or can we help save them this agony by somehow raising their bottom up?
- Do some people repeatedly hit rock bottom over and over again with a short lived awaking, only to turn back to a sinful lifestyle, digging a deeper and deeper hole to climb out of?
- As sad as it may be, are some souls (maybe most) hopelessly lost forever, spiraling down in an insurmountable hole of endless hell that will never reach a rock bottom?
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Date Joined Dec 2003 Total Posts : 1544 | Posted 8/5/2005 11:47 AM (GMT -6) |   | |
So where better to look, for some rock bottom experiences other then the “Big House”. The following quotes are from real death row prisoner’s giving their last words prior to the moment of lethal injection that ultimately leads to their last breath in this life.
Date of Execution: May 18, 2004 Offender: Patterson, Kelsey Last Statement: Statement to what. State What. I am not guilty of the charge of capital murder. Steal me and my family's money. My truth will always be my truth. There is no kin and no friend; no fear what you do to me. No kin to you undertaker. Murderer. [Portion of statement omitted due to profanity] Get my money. Give me my rights. Give me my rights. Give me my rights. Give me my life back. http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/statistics/deathrow/drowlist/paterson.jpg
Kelsey Patterson was convicted for killing two people. The only known motive was he once argued with one of the victims about who was the better football player.
Date of Execution: March 30, 1984 Offender: Ronald Clark O’Bryan #529 Last Statement: What is about to transpire in a few moments is wrong! However, we as human beings do make mistakes and errors. This execution is one of those wrongs yet doesn’t mean our whole system of justice is wrong. Therefore, I would forgive all who have taken part in any way in my death. Also, to anyone I have offended in any way during my 39 years, I pray and ask your forgiveness, just as I forgive anyone who offended me in any way. And I pray and ask God’s forgiveness for all of us respectively as human beings. To my loved ones, I extend my undying love. To those close to me, know in your hearts I love you one and all. God bless you all and may God’s best blessings be always yours. Ronald C. O’Bryan P.S. During my time here, I have been treated well by all T.D.C. personnel. http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/statistics/deathrow/executed/obryan.jpg
Robert O'Bryan was convicted of murdering his son Timothy O'Bryan by poisoning his Halloween candy with cyanide.
What do ya’ think, by their last words were either of these men saved?
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Date Joined Dec 2003 Total Posts : 1544 | Posted 8/5/2005 3:56 PM (GMT -6) |   |
Sahid said...
"'It is now over. This has never been a case of trying to get free. I didn't ever want freedom. Frankly, I wanted death for myself. This was a case to tell the world that I did what I did, but not for reasons of hate. I hated no one. I knew I was sick or evil or both. Now I believe I was sick. The doctors have told me about my sickness, and now I have some peace. I know how much harm I have caused... Thank God there will be no more harm that I can do. I believe that only the Lord Jesus Christ can save me from my sins... I ask for no consideration." - Jeffrey Dahmer
Thanks Sahid!
Wow .., as fellow Christians we sure can find ourselves in some strange company. If Jeffery gave his life to the Great Physician our Lord Jesus, halleluiah! Hmm….was Dahmer ever diagnosed as insane or something? Of course all sin is insane when you think about it. Sin is sick and it’s the ultimate reason for the disease that separates our bodies from our souls (physical death) and separates us from God (spiritual death).
Shalom,
Mark
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Date Joined Dec 2003 Total Posts : 1544 | Posted 12/13/2005 1:44 AM (GMT -6) |   | |
Today, December 13, the 51-year-old Williams is scheduled to be executed by the state of California. Williams is a convicted murderer and the co-founder of one of the country's most notorious street gangs, the Crips.
STANLEY TOOKIE WILLIAMS: "Well, my interpretation of redemption, it differs from the theological or the academical rendition. I believe that my redemption symbolizes the end of a bad beginning and a new start. It goes beyond, in a sense of being liberated from one's sins or atonement in itself."
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/11/30/153247
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