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honorman
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| Posted 12/4/2003 5:53 PM (GMT -6) |   | | http://www.touchstonemag.com/docs/issues/16.10docs/16-10pg12.html | | Back to Top | | |
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 12/13/2003 5:01 PM (GMT -6) | | quote:
Originally posted by Tigress
Interesting and encouraging. How can we be sure it's really true, though?
I'd trust the article.
But either way, remember.......that The "Feast of the Navitity" actually sprang off of the January 6th celebrations of Theophany (baptism)/Epiphany feast!!!!!!!! Theophahy is tightly modeled in structure and content on Pascha/Easter. (Why is it only in English that the words are different?) The whole thing, even a WINTER LENTEN FAST leads up to the Feast of the Navitity!
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 12/17/2003 3:25 AM (GMT -6) | | quote:
Originally posted by Laika
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Grottos Online
Write to the North Pole and find Santa in the UK. Features include games.
url: www.grottosonline.com/
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The True Story of Santa Claus
Discusses the European origins of Saint Nicholas and the evolution of the character.
url: www.thehollandring.com/truestory.htm
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St. Nicholas in Orthodoxy
A look at the real Santa Claus with references to many sites and Orthodox Christian icons.
url: web.got.net/~rburns/santa.html
And Sundblom's Santa, painted for Coca Cola!
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In 1931, Coca-Cola commissioned an illustrator by the name of Haddon Sundblom to develop an advertising image to encourage people to drink coke during the winter months (it was until then considered a summer beverage). Inspired by Clement Clark Moore’s 1822 poem ‘A visit from St. Nicholas,’ which describes the toy-maker as ‘chubby and plump, a right jolly old elf,’ Sundblom created the modern day image of Santa Claus. Ironically, what gave Sundblom’s Santa credibility was the mass media’s portrayal of it as a part of an ancient folk tradition - a mythical hero unchanged by consumer culture.
www.corporatewatch.org.uk/newsletter/issue15/part4.htm
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PotOnWheel
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 12/22/2003 3:23 AM (GMT -6) | | Here.
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Thomas J. Talley, "The Day of His Coming", a discussion about the origins of the feast of Christmas which appears in The Origins of the Liturgical Year (Pueblo Books, Liturgical Press, Collegeville: 1986 and 1991), Part Two, sections 1 through 6 (pp. 79-103). Shows that there is little evidence for the popularly held assumption that Christmas was instituted to counter the pagan Saturnalia.
www.jbburnett.com/auctor/talley_origins-2-xmas.pdf
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