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|  mrfixit Registered Member
 Date Joined Jan 2002 Total Posts : 3 | Posted 3/25/2002 8:24 AM (GMT -6) |   | Do you think "tits" is a good word to use in a pastor's sermon?
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 |  Electra Registered Member

Date Joined Feb 2002 Total Posts : 611 | Posted 3/25/2002 8:34 AM (GMT -6) |   | quote: Do you think "tits" is a good word to use in a pastor's sermon?
Do you think that a father calling his son “as worthless as tits on a bull” qualifies as a pastoral concern? Do you think that there might be some fathers or sons in a congregation of 5000 who can relate to an experience like that? Do you think it’s important to reach these men with the good news about what Jesus thinks they’re worth?
Electra
~·•·~·•·~·•·~·•·~ I can decide what I give But it’s not up to me What I get given •·~ Bjørk
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 |  PotOnWheel Registered Member

Date Joined Jul 2001 Total Posts : 9890 | Posted 3/25/2002 8:46 AM (GMT -6) |   | The phonetic spelling would be-e-e "Teeets."
At least that is the way the dariy farmers I've known have pronounced the word.
My brother-in-law who did a "cow dating service" for ABC called them that too. They have antibacterial aplication to put on them to prevent chapping and/or infection.
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 |  Springs Registered Member
 Date Joined Jul 2001 Total Posts : 636 | Posted 3/25/2002 9:30 AM (GMT -6) |   | I don't think mispronouncing words during a pastor's sermon is good. For instance pedastle should not be pronouced pedastool. I also don't think the word bifurcate is good. Just don't like the sound of it. Could be divisive.  What ever can we do? Should we switch churches? -S
"The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands." Ps. 19:1
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 |  dust Registered Member
 Date Joined Mar 2002 Total Posts : 16 | Posted 3/25/2002 10:29 AM (GMT -6) |   | Mr. Fixit:
Thanks for logging on and welcome. I’m glad you dared to voice your opinion here. It’s said that this site is open to hearing diverse perspectives on things and your perspective is just as important as any around here. Personally, I don’t come from a background where it would be okay to say such a thing in church but that isn’t my final word on anything.
How do YOU feel about it? Was there something more you had to say?
dust
Psalm 103:13,14 Just as a father has compassion on his children, So the Lord has compassion on those who fear Him. For He Himself knows our frame; He is mindful that we are but dust.
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 |  Electra Registered Member

Date Joined Feb 2002 Total Posts : 611 | Posted 3/25/2002 10:42 AM (GMT -6) |   | quote: The phonetic spelling would be-e-e "Teeets."
At least that is the way the dariy farmers I've known have pronounced the word.
My brother-in-law who did a "cow dating service" for ABC called them that too. They have antibacterial aplication to put on them to prevent chapping and/or infection.
Moooo
Whether its tits or teeets, the point still stands—they don’t belong on a bull. As for the question about whether they belong in sermons…depends on the context.
Electra
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 |  Mephi2K Registered Member
 Date Joined Jun 2001 Total Posts : 713 | Posted 3/25/2002 10:49 AM (GMT -6) |   | Everyone's entitled to their opinion. So here's mine...
I detest prudery in the church. Just another layer of unreality. Restraint, tact, and propriety is one thing. Prudery and puritanical censorship is another. Of course, there's Paul's "weaker/stronger Christian" idea to consider. But perhaps prudes (like libertines) just need to grow up.
Again, just my opinion. 
Opinionated,

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 |  Electra Registered Member

Date Joined Feb 2002 Total Posts : 611 | Posted 3/25/2002 10:49 AM (GMT -6) |   | quote: I don't think misprouncing words during a pastor's sermon is good. For instance pedastle should not be pronouced pedastool.
Mispronunciations or improvements? For example, “pedastool” rhymes with “cool,” “drool,” and “snool,” but “pedastle” has virtually no poetic possibilities. Also, I think “obliverate” makes the usual “obliterate” seem tame in comparison. Electra
~·•·~·•·~·•·~·•·~ I can decide what I give But it’s not up to me What I get given •·~ Bjørk
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 |  BJS Registered Member
 Date Joined Dec 2001 Total Posts : 587 | Posted 3/25/2002 10:50 AM (GMT -6) |   | 
Good Christian cows do not speak of such vulgar things.

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 |  Electra Registered Member

Date Joined Feb 2002 Total Posts : 611 | Posted 3/25/2002 10:52 AM (GMT -6) |   | quote: Mr. Fixit:
Thanks for logging on and welcome. I’m glad you dared to voice your opinion here. It’s said that this site is open to hearing diverse perspectives on things and your perspective is just as important as any around here. Personally, I don’t come from a background where it would be okay to say such a thing in church but that isn’t my final word on anything.
How do YOU feel about it? Was there something more you had to say?
dust
Where are my manners??? WELCOME MRFIXIT!!! —AND YOU TOO, DUST!!! Thanks for sharing. Electra
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 |  PotOnWheel Registered Member

Date Joined Jul 2001 Total Posts : 9890 | Posted 3/25/2002 11:31 AM (GMT -6) |   | This GAL was all I could find when i looked for that very funny cow above, on the same website.
I'm just being GOOFY, as I have been since the beginning on this thread. (I apologize to the thread's founder!!! And anyone else.)

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 |  PotOnWheel Registered Member

Date Joined Jul 2001 Total Posts : 9890 | Posted 3/25/2002 11:36 AM (GMT -6) |   | Look, a heffer:
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 |  Springs Registered Member
 Date Joined Jul 2001 Total Posts : 636 | Posted 3/25/2002 12:14 PM (GMT -6) |   | An entry for the threefold structure of reality thread:
Posts by Pot on Wheel as of 3/25/02
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 |  Seymour Registered Member
 Date Joined Jan 2002 Total Posts : 105 | Posted 3/25/2002 3:23 PM (GMT -6) |   | I once invited my dad to hear a sermon preached by my all time favorite theology professor. Within the opening minute of the sermon he said “tit” once and “hind teeet” (phonetically) twice. It made me blush because I didn’t know what my dad would think of it.
It made it a little better that he was talking about his pet pig who was a runt because he only got the hind teeet of his mother.
Somehow he connected this to the pigs that Jesus sent the demons into and how it wasn’t fair to scapegoat the pigs like that. It was a scandal to him that pigs were unclean when he had many pigs who were clean.
So maybe it was a perfect fit to scandalize the congregation by using the word “tit.” (How’s that for poetic usage?)
EMILY: “Oh, earth, you’re too wonderful for anybody to realize you. Do any human beings ever realize life while they live it?--every, every minute?” STAGE MANAGER: “No. The saints and poets, maybe--they do some.”
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 |  hope Registered Member
 Date Joined Mar 2002 Total Posts : 14 | Posted 3/26/2002 2:27 AM (GMT -6) |   | It's so good, since hotornot.com thread is dying out, to have another thread to come to for some light hearted humor. Not to over ride the original intent of this thread...
It was really funny though. My cousin's parents were in the service to see their grandchildren sing. When Doc Said "Tit's" Her dad just turned beat red and started chuckling and shaking his head. I couldn't help but be amused by his reaction. Although the story itself was sad.
I think anyone that has attended Woodland Hills for any length of time knows not to expect the norm. And to not expect Doc to be reigned in by by the traditional constraints of the evangelical community. He preaches in tennis shoes for pete's sake! That's one of the things that I love about the church. It's REAL not glossed over.
Hope
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 |  might-be-don Registered Member
 Date Joined Jun 2001 Total Posts : 830 | Posted 3/26/2002 3:02 AM (GMT -6) |   | As long as he didn't say "boobs on a bull", I think it's ok .
peace and love, don
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 |  hope Registered Member
 Date Joined Mar 2002 Total Posts : 14 | Posted 3/26/2002 3:27 AM (GMT -6) |   | Might-be-don: As long as he didn't say boobs...
Hope:What about "breasts on a bull"? or pomegranits like in the Song of Solomon?
Hope 
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 |  PotOnWheel Registered Member

Date Joined Jul 2001 Total Posts : 9890 | Posted 3/26/2002 4:00 AM (GMT -6) |   | Well, we all had a COW over this.
Well, it was ME who first went *barnyard* on this thread. My appologies to mrfixit
But for those who speak publicly... its time for reflection.
I gather this was not said in Northwest Iowa by big Dutch farmers. They speak of earthy things casually. BUT, they are also very, very homogeneous culturally. Such things are said with an accent.
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 |  might-be-don Registered Member
 Date Joined Jun 2001 Total Posts : 830 | Posted 3/26/2002 4:19 AM (GMT -6) |   | quote:
Hope:What about "breasts on a bull"? or pomegranits like in the Song of Solomon?
WHoops... I was thinking about ( my apology to John Travolta ) urban cowboys riding mechanical bulls in bars with steerhorns over the doors. You know, boobs on bulls. That would have been a very demeaning comment to make about them there folks.
peace and love, don
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 |  mrfixit Registered Member
 Date Joined Jan 2002 Total Posts : 3 | Posted 3/26/2002 5:04 AM (GMT -6) |   | Well, I brought this up because I was curious as to what y'all would say. Greg speaking in such a way, is not all that unexpected. You really never know what he's going to say.
Fortunatly, I was in the atrium in and caught the comment on the televison with not many people around. I rolled on the floor with laughter while a few around wondered what was so funny. Greg is refreshing.
I consider the thread closed and I don't care to comment on the phoenetics or otherwise origins of the word, or politicizing it or anything else. Greg frequently missquotes, misspronouces, etc (e. g. heefer with long e), but that should be a different thread.
I'll quit laughing now...
mrfixit
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 |  hope Registered Member
 Date Joined Mar 2002 Total Posts : 14 | Posted 3/26/2002 7:25 AM (GMT -6) |   | Mr. Fixit, I find it very interesting how much we can read into a question that in and of itself isn't implying anything. Had we seen your face though I'm sure we would've seen that hint of laughter and a gleam in your eye to show your good humor. Hope
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 |  Seymour Registered Member
 Date Joined Jan 2002 Total Posts : 105 | Posted 3/26/2002 12:46 PM (GMT -6) |   | What was the context of Doc using the word "tit's" in a sermon???
I'd love to know.
EMILY: “Oh, earth, you’re too wonderful for anybody to realize you. Do any human beings ever realize life while they live it?--every, every minute?” STAGE MANAGER: “No. The saints and poets, maybe--they do some.”
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 |  Semeia Registered Member
 Date Joined Aug 2001 Total Posts : 522 | Posted 3/26/2002 3:03 PM (GMT -6) |   | Seymour, Electra's first post gives the context. He was talking about negative life scripts that we listen to, as opposed to listening to what God says about us, about us being His spotless bride, His beloved.
He was using it as an example of an abusive statement a person might have heard that comes to define who they think they are: "as worthless as tits on a bull".
It was a powerful sermon.
Semeia
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 |  PotOnWheel Registered Member

Date Joined Jul 2001 Total Posts : 9890 | Posted 3/26/2002 4:03 PM (GMT -6) |   | Caption: Great Tit flying to feeder

Semeia, you got me started again!
The "Tit" must be a British bird.
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 |  n/a Registered Member
 Date Joined Jul 2001 Total Posts : 218 | Posted 3/28/2002 7:59 AM (GMT -6) |   | tits tits tits tits tits tits.
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