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BBBCanada
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   Posted 3/25/2006 10:26 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
So on the one hand we have fundamentalists who say that those of other religions and belief systems are being held in the power of Satan's grip...while on the other hand, we have those who worship together with other religions.
 
 
Personally, I don't have much of a problem with what is going on here.  You guys?


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   Posted 3/26/2006 11:19 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Actually, I think Graham could probably accomodate that kind of situation with no problem, as many other fundamentalists could.


 

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   Posted 3/26/2006 1:49 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Why do you say that?


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   Posted 3/26/2006 2:01 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I guess because Graham and many fundamentalists don't strike me as being as personally animated as they are epistemologically passionate. A person can be passionate and fully persuaded about his/her own views and still believe that "except for the grace of God, there go I." Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't know how to conclude otherwise.

Maybe I read the article wrong, but all I remember it saying was that they shared a place for religious services. The Catholics took down their statues before the Adventists assembled, and so forth. So it's not like they were all worshipping together in FULL embracement of their respective tenants of faith.


 

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   Posted 3/26/2006 3:00 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

I didn't have it quite right:

The three faiths share a basement for their religious ceremonies in a housing project in the Sacavem suburb of Lisbon. Only a thin wall separates the mosque from a room where the Catholic and Adventist communities hold their rituals.

Out of respect for the Adventists, who refuse symbols, Catholics keep representations of their faith to a minimum. Even the crucifix is a fold-out that is removed after the mass...

The three faiths have even held religious ceremonies together in the basement.

What's pertinent, to me, is that meeting together is not the ONLY way they worship. That's why I could see Graham and some fundamentalists doing this. It's kind of like when a president says "God bless America." The atheists might not like it, but most theists see it as an appeal to Jefferson's God of Nature--which many Jews, Christians, and Muslims are not offended by.

That same ground of common belief is sufficient to occasion common prayer meetings, especially in regions where more tolerance is needed for basic civility in the streets. In a country which is rich and relatively peaceful, it wouldn't occur to most theists to do it. So I can't imagine Graham condemning what is going on there.

The following, too, is an example of our common belief in basic God-given rights. In fact, in some ways I feel as much ground for discussing politics and basic human rights with a Muslim as I do some professing Christians:

Jose Queta, leader of the project’s Muslims, says he and the Catholic and Adventist leaders are close friends who frequently discuss issues in the news.

"We talk about the problems of the world but we want peace, so we Muslims don’t condemn or criticize events. And Catholics and Adventists want the same," he said.

Maybe Graham and fundamentalists are further removed from basic natural law thinking than I think. But if not, I just don't see their epistemological passion as precluding the possibility of dialoguing with a non-Christian person like Jefferson or modern day religionists who hold similar views. I mean, after all, Jefferson wasn't a Christian, but he attended Christian churches at times. He agreed with a good deal of Christian morality.

 


 

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