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Blood Washed Heretic
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| Posted 12/17/2003 6:54 AM (GMT -6) |   | Just so everyone knows that I'm not some raging liberal who refuses to give Dubs ANY credit...
I applaud Bush's stance on gay issues. It's precisely the model of thoughtful moderation I hoped for on all issues when I voted for him (you heard me right).
Honoring civil unions while stopping short of allowing same-sex marriages is what makes the most sense, and will keep the most people happy. This talk about a constitutional amendment seems a bit much, but he does have to appease the Falwells and Robertsons, I suppose.
Anyway, between this and Saddam's capture, things are looking up for El Presidente. Now if he'd only launch a REAL investigation into 9/11 and do something about health care, he might even get MY vote again  ...
We'll see.
The cool thing about all this is that this could provide the lull in the "culture wars" that will actually make organizing a detente, as DLW keeps harping about  , possible.
Could the days of partisan politics be numbered? Yeah, nice Christmas wish, huh?
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Laika
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DLW
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| Posted 12/17/2003 8:23 AM (GMT -6) | | quote:
Originally posted by Blood Washed Heretic
Just so everyone knows that I'm not some raging liberal who refuses to give Dubs ANY credit...
I applaud Bush's stance on gay issues. It's precisely the model of thoughtful moderation I hoped for on all issues when I voted for him (you heard me right).
Honoring civil unions while stopping short of allowing same-sex marriages is what makes the most sense, and will keep the most people happy. This talk about a constitutional amendment seems a bit much, but he does have to appease the Falwells and Robertsons, I suppose.
Anyway, between this and Saddam's capture, things are looking up for El Presidente. Now if he'd only launch a REAL investigation into 9/11 and do something about health care, he might even get MY vote again ...
I believe he did pass reform of Medicare. That's something that Clinton failed to do.
I think it bears pause to remember that we could have started off on the rhetorical high plane that the Bush Admin. now stands on way back a while ago.
As for the homosexuality stuff, the issue is what the legalization of marriage for homosexuals has come to stand for. It is a matter of institutionalizing the perspective that heterosexist viewpoints like BWH and mine aren't officially correct.
Now, civil unions really aren't that different from marriage and it will be important, IMO, to make sure they are geared at long-standing relationships.
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The cool thing about all this is that this could provide the lull in the "culture wars" that will actually make organizing a detente, as DLW keeps harping about , possible.
Could the days of partisan politics be numbered? Yeah, nice Christmas wish, huh?
It all depends. With the economy doing well and tangible improvements/success in Iraq and a reduction in the US body-count, Bush will be boosted in the upcoming election.
The Dems then won't have a chance if they maintain the level of vitriole as shown in my post on Bush's first advertisement.
That won't work with independent swing-voters and may turn them off.
I honestly think that for the Dems to have a chance, they are going to have to get a candidate that will press for detente in the cultural wars. My money is on Clark as the one to do this, I don't think Dean is capable of such and Clark is better qualified than Bush to lead a country with sizeable longterm military commitments abroad and potential continued conflicts with China and N. Korea ahead and, of course, the continued quest to bag Osama Bin Laden. This would be even more punctuated if he could maintain continuity with current practices by maintaining Colin Powell as Sec of State.
dlw
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