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gregw
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| Posted 1/28/2004 11:14 AM (GMT -6) |   | | | |
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Wahoo
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| Posted 1/28/2004 1:56 PM (GMT -6) | | Trey Dogg,
Don't listen to anybody else... This is your ticket man. You should valet cars for Piccadilly until you realize that you should have gone to seminary. And by then you'll have a wife and kids and you won't be able to afford it anyway...so don't even consider it.
Seriously, do you want some more abbreviations or do you really want to apply your skills. You are a gifted man so please don't let some pieces of paper validate you. I think Bethel would be a fine school so much that I've considered it myself. But my wife and I are probably going to learn Arabic first so that will have to wait.
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Tiggers
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| Posted 1/30/2004 9:27 AM (GMT -6) | | Hey Trey,
Glad to hear you are interested in Sem.; however, what area of study do you want to indulge in? For example, are you going into sem. for a future degree in teaching at a college, or Sem., or are you looking for a Sem. that with really guide you in a becoming a great pastor, councilor, youth pastor, missionary, etc. You see, this is the deal, different schools excel in different areas. Also look at your theological background, that is, if you’re an Open Theist then you will have to work twice as hard at a Sem. like Trinity Evangelical Divinity School, Gordon-Conwell, Southern Baptist, etc. However, I attended Gordon-Conwell and loved it, even though I was considered a bit too liberal for them. Personally, I loved emerging myself in the Reformed culture especially since much of MY theology was heavily influenced by the likes of Roger Olson, Greg Boyd, & Karen McKinney from Bethel College. Gordon was an interesting change of pace…I loved it; furthermore, I grew stronger in my belief and learned to love my fellow hard determinist. Anyways, I will try to give you some ideas once you can get back to me with what your concentration might be in Sem., cool?
Warmly in Christ,
Tiggers 
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Tiggers
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| Posted 2/6/2004 1:02 PM (GMT -6) | | quote:
Originally posted by trey dogg
Well of couse as I've stated, I am a youth min major. I know that Bethel has a program for that (I actually have Tiger McLuen as a prof for Jr/Sr High Ministry class right now). My hopes right now would to be in some sort of pastoring position, most likely a youth pastor or maybe a family pastor. I prefer to be versatile to some point in my work... I would like to have the possibility of become a professor if it becomes available to me. But now the focus is on youth or family ministry.
and in reality, my thoughts are that i may start out at Bethel.
Hey Trey Dog,
I was a YOMI at Bethel College myself a while back. Well, for what it’s worth, I would definitely go M-Div, and not MA being that you want pastoral work, and if you attain a MA-Youth Ministry it won’t be worth as much outside of working with youth. Now, I would recommend taking your electives in the youth and counseling field, but stick with the reg. M-Div and don’t opt out of the languages (e.g., Greek, Hebrew, & Theological German if available). You see, if you want to go on to Doctoral work in theological studies you will be required to show competency/working knowledge in these languages and possibly French as well. It’s a long road, but worth it if you have the passion and the financial ability to go forward with it.
Warmly in Christ,
Tiggers
PS
I’m sure Bethel is a fine choice, but please note that certain denominations DO NOT except Bethel’s Master degree programs as acceptable to work as pastors in their church (e.g., United Methodist would not allow me to go to Bethel Seminary and receive an M-Div. to work in their denomination as a pastor; furthermore, the Pres. USA, also doesn’t look highly on Bethel’s programs). Some main line denominations look down on conservatives and feel that Bethel is far to theologically conservative (e.g., they are way past the whole women as head pastors issue, open theism, and their main controversy is the homosexual pastor issue, most likely). Anyways, the point is, be careful when you choose a seminary. I truly believe that Bethel is a wonderful Seminary, and I simply want you to know the ugly side of denominations and church politics. Best wishes to you, and pray hard in your decision.
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Tiggers
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| Posted 2/11/2004 12:24 PM (GMT -6) | | quote:
Originally posted by moon_river_j
[quote]Originally posted by trey dogg
and in reality, my thoughts are that i may start out at Bethel.
Hi Trey,
Nice to meet you. My husband graduated from seminary in 1994 - Cochrane, Alberta "Canadian Southern Baptist Seminary" and now we live in the great white North in Canada (The Frozen Chosen)
Sounds like you're figuring this out and there are lots of helpful people here Trey. I've come a long way in my thinking and have changed many of the things I believed since seminary days.
I guess if I could say anything to you about this (you know I'm going to) - I would tell you to make and keep Him the first love of your life. It is so incredibly easy in seminary to get caught up with hectic schedules, hot debates, ministry (all wonderful) and forget your First Love. It's kind of like marriage. You start out with stars in your eyes and soon the clouds roll in and you can't remember what it was that sparkled. There will be days like that. But stay close to the shepherd Trey. That is the one promise we can count on - If we draw close to Him, He'll draw close to us. That would be my prayer for you. It is a grand new adventure to embark on with Him.
Ask some people that you know love to pray - to pray for you - from the very beginning. Even now as you're deciding. God Bless you in this new adventure with Him.
Jo-Anne
Hey Trey,
Read Jo-Anne's quote... It's so TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!! AMEN, Jo-Anne!
Warmly in Christ,
Tiggers
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natethree16
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| Posted 2/12/2004 9:42 PM (GMT -6) | | Hey buddy,
i'm currently in sem. if you have any questions, just ask me.
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