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John Earp
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| Posted 4/10/2004 1:23 PM (GMT -6) |   | The most constant reference Paul makes to Christians is that they are "in Christ":
1 Cor 1:30 But by His doing you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption,
And, as the above verse clearly indicates, this is far more than a "positional righteousness," or else we mock the "doing" of God in the first part of the verse as well as the present reality of wisdom, righteousness, sanctification, and redemption that all who are in Christ are to enjoy.
The real presence of the Holy Spirit in believers' hearts is too clear in Scripture to need pointing out, but for the sake of defense of this precious truth, I offer the following clear scriptures which indicate that an intimate, personal relationship with God, Christ, & and the Holy Spirit is the sine qua non of the Christian life:
2 Cor 1:21 Now He who establishes us with you in Christ and anointed us is God,
22 who also sealed us and gave {us} the Spirit in our hearts as a pledge.
2 Cor 5:17 Therefore if anyone is in Christ, {he is} a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come.
James 4:5 Or do you think that the Scripture speaks to no purpose: "He jealously desires the Spirit which He has made to dwell in us"?
John 14:15 ¶ "If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.
16 "I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever;
17 {that is} the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not see Him or know Him, {but} you know Him because He abides with you and will be in you.
18 ¶ "I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you.
19 "After a little while the world will no longer see Me, but you {will} see Me; because I live, you will live also.
20 "In that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you.
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said to him, "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our abode with him.
John 15:4 "Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself unless it abides in the vine, so neither {can} you unless you abide in Me.
Rom 8:9 ¶ However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him.
10 If Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the spirit is alive because of righteousness.
11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.
Eph 3:14 ¶ For this reason I bow my knees before the Father,
15 from whom every family in heaven and on earth derives its name,
16 that He would grant you, according to the riches of His glory, to be strengthened with power through His Spirit in the inner man,
17 so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith; {and} that you, being rooted and grounded in love,
18 may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the breadth and length and height and depth,
19 and to know the love of Christ which surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled up to all the fullness of God.
Gal 2:20 "I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the {life} which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me.
"The Discovery of new truth will modify old views and opinions, and there is perhaps no end to this process with finite minds in any world." Charles G. Finney, Systematic Theology.
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 4/10/2004 2:12 PM (GMT -6) | | Spen, may I please recommend this webpage as being worth your attention:
www.oca.org/pages/orth_chri/Orthodox-Faith/Doctrine/Holy-Trinity.html
John. Nice post. One of the best of yours I can recall.
For both of you, let me through out on the table the phrase that some Orthodox use, that: the Son and the Spirit are the right and left hands of the Father.
Also, lets remind ourselves of the five times in the NT when all three Persons are in the narrative. | | Back to Top | | |
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