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feelinahole
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| Posted 4/22/2004 3:49 PM (GMT -6) |   | Lee: given that all Christians do not interpret Romans 9 the way you do (actually not even all Calvinists interpret it the way you do. As John Feinberg notes in a footnote in Predestination and Free Will: Four Views he doesn't believe you can appeal to Romans 9 as you do), I would suggest you try a different tack. Obviously people are not asking for you to quote scripture, particularly scripture that does not answer the question (given that others would not interpret it as you do). I would suggest a more direct approach, like actually addressing the question.
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Truth Aficionado
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| Posted 4/22/2004 5:05 PM (GMT -6) | | quote:
Originally posted by Lee Merrill
Hi Sparknheart,
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Hypothetically, why can’t I just go up to a Calvinist and punch him in the nose and say “I was predestined to do it, blame it on God he sent me”?
And Joseph's brothers, who sinned, were some of the ones being saved. So God had a good purpose, even for them. The motive is what we look at, to determine guilt or innocence. And God's motive is always good, thus he is not guilty in carrying out his plans, for a good purpose.Blessings,
Lee
Hello Lee,
I have to laugh  , are you telling me to punch you in the nose for your own good?
God Bless you Lee and your hypothetical nose.
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Lee Merrill
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| Posted 4/23/2004 3:25 PM (GMT -6) | | Hi FIH and SIH,
Your nicknames rhyme, when I abbreviate!
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Lee: given that all Christians do not interpret Romans 9 the way you do (actually not even all Calvinists interpret it the way you do.
I am kind of paddling my own canoe here.
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Obviously people are not asking for you to quote scripture, particularly scripture that does not answer the question (given that others would not interpret it as you do). I would suggest a more direct approach, like actually addressing the question.
Your job (should you choose to accept it) is to show me where I'm wrong in my interpretation, though. I do try and get people to tackle me on this, but not many takers, so far. I do think it addresses the question. But maybe I am mistaken.
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What you are basically saying is, we're right, it may not be logical, but we're right and you can't question God.
I would edit that, though, and say it is logical, God has a good purpose, thus he is not guilty. It is not good to question God, in a way that charges him with sin, I agree with that:
JOB 40:8 "Would you discredit my justice? Would you condemn me to justify yourself?"
Asking questions is not forbidden, though:
ISA 1:18 "Come now, let us reason together," says the Lord.
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SIH: I have to laugh , are you telling me to punch you in the nose for your own good?
God Bless you Lee and your hypothetical nose.
Hypothetical person: Punches Lee in the (hypothetical) nose.
Lee: BAHAHAHAHAHAHA... Thag you very buch...
Actually! I have had some bumps, which I have seen good results from. I really do believe this. Actually...
LK 10:19 ... nothing will harm you.
Blessings,
Lee
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