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PotOnWheel
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Posted 7/3/2004 4:13 AM (GMT -6)

THE REALLY COOL "VINE AND BRANCHES" ILLUMINATED
MANUSCRIPT DRAWING DISPLAYS *WAY* TOO BIG
HERE ON THIS PAGE. NO ONE WOULD BE ABLE TO
READ THE TEXT-POSTS; SO. . .
I'VE GIVEN IT ITS OWN THREAD!

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Sahid
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Posted 7/3/2004 7:16 PM (GMT -6)

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Your line of questioning seems to presuppose the popular (but unscriptural) idea that Christ's death FOR us had to be specifically for each and every one of us (and that each and every one He died for had to somehow already exist in a settled future when Christ died, or else He couldn't have died "for" them.

This answers the question I started the topic with. I still think it's possible that God understood the implications of redemption through Christ to specific potential individuals . I don't think that this contradicts with the "whosoever" verse (Acts 2). I also think this is more like the love that we see in God. He doesn't just love my nature and the data that defines my life; he loves me. He loves me even though I've done all I can to screw with the beauty he created me with. I think open theism has room to concede that, though God doesn't know future free decisions, He could still know all the posible alternatives and their consequences.

Watch me fly. Freedom like wings and I will use them. Freedom like wings and I will spread them wide. - Stavesacre

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