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writerdad
01/23/01 12:02 AM
On prophecy
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Hi everyone: I am curious how other open theists out there view prophecy in scripture as it relates to God's knowledge. I would appreciate all comments since I am still doing serious study on the issue. Thanks! John 17:3 Harold
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Kassiopeia
05/08/01 11:35 AM
RE: On prophecy
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YO!! Nobody answered this question?!! I’m shocked (more like I wanna use these faces I found)
You guys need to know what’s up. What do you do all day anyway ??
About the question—
My gut feeling is that prophecy is a key part of what an ancient person understood as knowledge. Oracles and soothsayings were paid attention to…and for the Hebrews the prophets were in the know IF they ever got out of the dog house. An additional question to the one asked by Harold is—WHAT DID KNOWLEDGE CONSIST OF IN THE ANCIENT’S MIND? What all did knowledge include and what did it primarily include?
The answers to these questions could be contrasted with the modern person’s understanding of knowledge. Today if you know something—it almost exclusively means you have information about it. Today, if you know somebody—it could well mean that you simply have information on that person. Back then it could well mean that you went into their tent and slept with them.
Imagine! If when the old Testament refers to God’s knowledge—it meant to say nothing about God’s informational pre-knowledge of a thing. I would laugh my head off.
Never mind me I’m just blabbering. And probably am exposing my ignorance BIG time. But I do think this is a key question to understanding the whole debate.
Yo Harold—-keep on studying. I think you are on to a good question.
Kassiopeia
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ModesofThought
05/08/01 3:57 PM
RE: RE: On prophecy
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Those are seriously COOL faces!
I hope people are reading your post, though, I think you are really on to something big. Very big.
More importantly, PLEASE tell me how to do those extra-cool faces!
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writerdad
05/09/01 12:19 AM
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Actually I'm surprised anyone answered this questions after all this time...but I am still studying...
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Kassiopeia
05/15/01 9:02 PM
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writer,
Have you done any reading on Barth, the ontic and noetic structure of the knowledge of God? Also Anselm and ratio.
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writerdad
05/16/01 12:14 AM
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Actually, I am in Finney's theology, but I do have a copy of Barth's stuff that I plan to pick up when I am done. Why? There light there to be shed on prophecy (I can't believe after all this time someone is asking me...thanks guys...)
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Kassiopeia
05/16/01 9:52 AM
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Yup,
Their's definately something in Anselm and Barth. From what I get so far they split up the word knowledge into more graspable categories. I don't know how much prophecy is a part of the picture yet but...
Anyway, I have another friend who did some study on the subject a few years ago. He will be sharing some of the fruits of that labor with me. I'll let you know what I find out.
My hunch here is that this field of study will be a ray of light on the whole debate.
I'll get back to you with what I find. It might take a while though.
Posted Originally From: Christus Victor Ministries
writerdad
05/16/01 9:48 PM
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Do you know where I can pick up a copy of Anselm...
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Kassiopeia
05/18/01 9:23 AM
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The Library...
I really don't know how to answer here cause I don't know what you have available to you and I keep associating you with England...misconnected brainwire perhaps.
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writerdad
05/18/01 1:55 PM
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England...wow...I wish...no, I am a beach man...living in San Diego. I hadn't thought of the library, but since my sister's still at the college here I'll check both local and the college to see...thanks...
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