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|  chance Registered Member
 Date Joined Jun 2001 Total Posts : 157 | Posted 8/8/2001 7:58 AM (GMT -6) |   | Many people see the prophecy given in Is 7:13-14 as a Mesianic prophecy that Christ fulfilled based upon what is said of it in Matt 1:22-23.
Is this really a Messianic prophecy? Or is it just another passage like Hos 11:1 which Matthew uses to point out that what is going on with Christ by way of illustration?
It seems that this prophecy is one that failed. I find no place in Scripture where it is said to be fulfilled or demonstrated to be so. Here is the passage with some context.
quote: Isaiah 7:10-17 Moreover the LORD spoke again to Ahaz, saying, 11 "Ask a sign for yourself from the LORD your God; ask it either in the depth or in the height above." 12 But Ahaz said, "I will not ask, nor will I test the LORD!" 13 Then he said, "Hear now, O house of David! [Is it] a small thing for you to weary men, but will you weary my God also? 14 "Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a Son, and shall call His name Immanuel. 15 "Curds and honey He shall eat, that He may know to refuse the evil and choose the good. 16 "For before the Child shall know to refuse the evil and choose the good, the land that you dread will be forsaken by both her kings. 17 "The LORD will bring the king of Assyria upon you and your people and your father's house -- days that have not come since the day that Ephraim departed from Judah."
I don't think that this prophecy was refering to Christ when it was given and that this prophecy did not come to pass.
What do you think?
chance
A God who has fixed every detail beforehand may retire or die --Markus Barth
p.s. I'd also be interested in any arguments that show that Is 53 was not written as a Messianic prophecy. The church that a friend of mine goes to is memorizing the entire chapter and they believe, of course, that it is a Messianic prophecy that Christ was to fulfill. I am not sure if it is and would enjoy reading some arguments for it not being a Messianic prophecy .
Edited by - chance on 08/08/2001 1:03:50 PM | | Back to Top | | |
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