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JoeMoore
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   Posted 7/9/2001 8:32 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I'm not going to involve myslelf in young vs old earth, but we need to be careful when we use an emotionally charged word like evolution to make sure we mean the same thing.


Evolution (change) is true. There is no doubt about that. The question is: How does evolution (change) fit into the origin of species in general and man in specific? Personally, my faith doesn't live and die based on whether a given species evolved into another.


I know that man was uniquely created in God's image. How He did that is up to Him.


However, if anyone argues that evolution without a mind behind it is the only mechanism to get from the 'primordal soup' (whether or not it existed) to today's world I cannot talk sensibly with them on that subject because we have no common ground.


Having said that, God certainly has the ability to have created the earth in 6 24 hour days.


Joe Moore


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   Posted 7/9/2001 9:02 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I do not know much about evolution,the amount of evolution I do know is from my friend Justin and thayne who both are christians and also this book I read called
Finding Darwins God.
I want to respond to this statement you made and try to give you my opinion
"Personally, my faith doesn't live and die based on whether a given species evolved into another".
This is true it does not matter but in my opinion I think that we could ultimately use are knowledge of God evolving man to go against claims that there was no creator involved thus trying to use evolution as a catalyst to disprove religion and instead claiming biological evolution was in fact allowed by an ontological being who did not need to meticulously guide mans path as we see in Genesis thus enabling nature to do its work just like he allows are faith to grow instead of turning us into robots who need to succumb to his will as soon as we say i do in accepting christ.
I also believe he has the ability to make the earth in 6 days but I would think we were limiting god in saying he could not do it in 45 billion years. Just a thought
god bless
Paul

"all the people at the zoo will treat you real nice and respectable like penguin"

Edited by - faithfullservent on 07/09/2001 2:05:38 PM
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Newcomb
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   Posted 7/26/2001 4:20 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I find it humorous that people use the "limit God" argument whenever they want to make a statement and see if it goes unopposed. I can't quite see how it limits God to believe what he said about what he did. The question is, then what did he mean when he said 6 days? It is irrational to believe 6days=45mm years.
Moving on.
I am glad you can still believe after not believing everything God has stated. After all, the OV is a small percentage of Christians, and, if correct, this leaves everyone else not believing everything either. (This argument can be used by any other group as well.)
However, the goal of Darwin was to eliminate God from the origins argument.
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Evolution (change) is true. There is no doubt about that. The question is: How does evolution (change) fit into the origin of species in general and man in specific? (snip)
I know that man was uniquely created in God's image. How He did that is up to Him.



OK, microevolution is true. My fish slowly change their color. However, they are still fish. Macroevolution, tha change in species, has never ever under any circumstance even been shown to be able to happen. It is a fallacy. No one has every viewed it. No one has ever shown how it can be true, yet Christians still try to accomodate it as if the fact that a majority believe it means it must be so. This is a logical fallacy called consensis gentium. (Everyone believes it, therefore it is true.}
Sorry, but the idea that live arrises spontaneously from non-living things violates several natural laws, and animals don't change species.





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