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chiam
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   Posted 7/28/2003 9:15 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
This is my first time on this forum. I have been reading about open theism and the classical view God.
I just finished listening to Dr. Boyd's sermon on 9/11 and I read his article "Why God? Is The Wrong Question." Ok. The question is not why--but did God know about 9/11?
If you are an open theist, do you believe that God knew what would occur on 9/11? Did God know that individuals would die? Did God know that the terrorist were planning this? Does God know when I will die and how?

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DLW
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   Posted 7/28/2003 9:21 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
We really don't know what God knew regarding the events that led to 9-11. We ourselves are still debating whether it could have been avoided.

Once the Al Quaeda decided to attempt a 9-11, God knew of their intent and yes, that people would die from it.

Does God know when you will die? Not exactly. God knows all the possible different circumstances under which you might die, but which one becomes actualized will likely depend on free-will choices of others.

I recommend you go through the "Does It really make a difference link that was started by Reasonable Doubt for an alright discussion of does the OV or CV matter...

dlw

I-uh-scream-uh,
You-uh-scream-uh,
We-all-uh-sceam-uh for
Ice-uh-cream-uh!!!

Roberto Bernigni in
Down by Law.

I wish we didn't live in a world where buying and selling things (especially selling) seems to have become almost more important than either producing or using them.

C.S. Lewis
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Rain
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   Posted 7/29/2003 9:42 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
God probably knew about 9/11 because he knows everything about the future. But I'm not sure why he let it happen. There is alot of things that I don't know why God lets them happen, but I still love him and trust him even though it has not always been easy. I'm sure he knows everything though, even when we will die. It is a good thing he does not tell us though. I don't think I want to know how and when I will die. God knew how other people in the Bible would die and when, or when they'd be born and what they'd be like and what they'd do. I guess we will have a lot of questions for God when we get to heaven, but we might be too awestruck to even ask any of them. Maybe they won't seem as important then.
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Laika
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   Posted 7/29/2003 10:36 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hey Rain, do you know what rain is?

It's God crying.

Do you know why God is crying?

It must be something you did and made Him sad.

Tongue

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DLW
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   Posted 7/29/2003 3:03 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Laika, bad doggie, bad doggie, stop chewing on rain!

Speaking of questions we might ask in heaven, one of my fav jokes I've written is about the world ends, and, of course, all physicists go to heaven(That's not the joke part). First thing they do is go up to God and ask, "Please, tell us, what is the Grand Unifying Theory?" God looks at them and responds, "Uh, which one do you want to know?"

Sorry to spoil a post on 9-11 with humor, but then again Roberto Bernigni is one of my idols.

dlw

I-uh-scream-uh,
You-uh-scream-uh,
We-all-uh-sceam-uh for
Ice-uh-cream-uh!!!

Roberto Bernigni in
Down by Law.

I wish we didn't live in a world where buying and selling things (especially selling) seems to have become almost more important than either producing or using them.

C.S. Lewis
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