Open Theism Discussion Board
  HomeLog InRegisterSearch the ForumHelp
   
Open Theism Discussion Board > Public Forums > The raging debate continues here... > (No Subject)
 
Forum Quick Jump
 
New Topic Post Reply Printable Version
[ << Previous Thread | Next Thread >> | Show Newest Post First ]

Matthew Timothy Short
Huh?




Date Joined Apr 2002
Total Posts : 635
 
   Posted 6/7/2002 1:36 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I am experiencing God, experiencing me, experience Him. What are your thoughts?

Back to Top
 

graygirl
Registered Member


Date Joined Aug 2001
Total Posts : 78
 
   Posted 6/8/2002 5:10 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
what do you mean? i don't understand.
Back to Top
 

Matthew Timothy Short
Huh?




Date Joined Apr 2002
Total Posts : 635
 
   Posted 6/8/2002 6:09 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hello graygirl,


Answering these questions might help you to understand my statement.

Can I experiencing anything, which God is not aware of, beforehand?

God possesses all knowledge; can I experience anything other than what God knows?

Can God experience anything; other than what He has knowledge of, in Him?


God’s Love,

Tim


Back to Top
 

Matthew Timothy Short
Huh?




Date Joined Apr 2002
Total Posts : 635
 
   Posted 6/9/2002 2:27 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Dear graygirl,


I believe I am experiencing God, experiencing me, experience Him.

Can I experiencing anything, which God is not aware of, beforehand? I believe the answer is absolutely, NO!

God possesses all knowledge; can I experience anything other than what God knows? Absolutely, NOT, in my mind!

Can God experience anything; other than what He has knowledge of, in Him? Experience anything other than, His knowledge in Him, personally, for Himself alone? YES, He can experience His knowledge in Him, in me, experiencing it also.

God’s knowledge alone is not exclusive to His own expression of it, He permits me to express my own choices, between what He already knows, limiting my expression, as He sees fit.


In God’s Love,

Tim


Back to Top
 

PotOnWheel
Registered Member




Date Joined Jul 2001
Total Posts : 9890
 
   Posted 6/9/2002 9:26 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

?



?
Back to Top
 

graygirl
Registered Member


Date Joined Aug 2001
Total Posts : 78
 
   Posted 6/10/2002 5:57 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Okay Tim

you're gonna have to break it down. i'm still not sure what you're saying/asking. are you saying can God experience himself through each individual in a way that he didn't have knowlege of???

i'm lost. try again. what are you trying to get at?

sorry i'm slow. but curious :)
Back to Top
 

Matthew Timothy Short
Huh?




Date Joined Apr 2002
Total Posts : 635
 
   Posted 6/12/2002 1:54 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Dearest PotOnWheeeeeee [Spinning] llll, and greygirl,


Graygirl: …can God experience himself through each individual in a way that he didn't have knowledge of???

TIM: Can God experience Himself, through every possible individual, in a way that he does not have knowledge of?

Not really, God knows Himself; He is ALL knowledge, therefore, God knows every possible experience of every human that might ever be born. However, I work with, experience, or learn from what knowledge, only God chooses to review, of Himself, to humanity and me personally. This is what I mean, when I say, "I am experiencing God…"

God experiences what He knows can happen (that is all ‘Possible Certainties’) in the life of the next baby born, until they die. I believe God knows everything, about every life that may be born, before the creation, from eternity past.

I am not saying, God learns, orthodox frowns upon that. God experiences the freedom of my choices for the first time when they occur, they become actual. He knows of all the possible consequences of givng humankind the freedom of choice, simply because He is knowledge and cannot help but know.

Nonetheless, God is able to interfere anytime He chooses, with whom ever He chooses, to bring about whatever result He chooses, therefore, being certain of any outcome in a person’s life He chooses. Except for the choice of Salvation I believe, which He leaves to the individual to decide upon, therefore leaving Him, that is God in the dark, about whom will receive His gift of eternal life. God is not a prisoner of His own knowledge, nor am I, He relates in real time to real situations in my live, which He knows can occur.

This is what I mean, when I say, "God is…experiencing me, experience Him.

God relates to and/or experiences me personally, as I experience what He knew could happen. God can take control of my steps and establish or make them sure, if I will let Him or if; I will not…kind of a Heaven or Hell thing.


God’s Love,

Tim






Edited by - Tim on 06/16/2002 10:50:18 AM
Back to Top
 

Matthew Timothy Short
Huh?




Date Joined Apr 2002
Total Posts : 635
 
   Posted 6/16/2002 7:18 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I would like to continue this conversation, with anyone who wishes, under Can God experience Himself...I believe that I have formed a more concise statement, of my beliefs there, thank you for your understanding.

Back to Top
 
New Topic Post Reply Printable Version
   
Forum Information
Currently it is Monday, November 09, 2026 12:37 PM (GMT -6)
There are a total of 97,718 posts in 6,040 threads.
In the last 3 days there were 0 new threads and 0 reply posts. View Active Threads