Open Theism Discussion Board
  HomeLog InRegisterSearch the ForumHelp
   
Open Theism Discussion Board > Public Forums > The raging debate continues here... > (No Subject)
 
Forum Quick Jump
 
New Topic Post Reply Printable Version
[ << Previous Thread | Next Thread >> | Show Newest Post First ]

geebob
Registered Member


Date Joined Jul 2001
Total Posts : 94
 
   Posted 10/30/2002 5:59 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I have frequented another board for the past three years where I have defended the open view. I interact with the questions placed on the board and I know basically what it is in calvinism and to a much lesser degree, traditional arminianism that I reject so I've always felt adequate to the task. But my views of calvinism are somewhat limited. I have a couple of sproul's book for the layman's view of calvinism and I have a book by Paul Helm on soverignty.

some recomendations for some Calvinist propaganda would be welcome, But what I'd really appreciate is some recomendations for criticism of open theism. I know there's garbage out there <coughnormangeislercough> and I'd rather not waste my time. so what to date are the best criticisms of the open view?

I will gladly pay you teusday for a hamburger today.

-Wimpy
Back to Top
 

Chucks3371
Registered Member


Date Joined Oct 2002
Total Posts : 28
 
   Posted 10/30/2002 6:45 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
The classic popular defense of calvinism is
Reformed Doctrine of Predestination by Loraine Boettner. It covers the whole TULIP thing and is pretty convincing. Boettner even tries to show how Calvinism differs from Islam. How's that for prescience?

Also, try The Westminster Confession of Faith for Study Classes by G.I. Williamson. It is an extended commentary on the Westminster Confession, which summarizes everything that a Calvinist must believe.

Although neither work explicitly deals with the open view, there is obviously plenty of implicit criticism.

Back to Top
 

PotOnWheel
Registered Member




Date Joined Jul 2001
Total Posts : 9890
 
   Posted 10/31/2002 1:02 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I'd point to a less narrow view of Calvinism than Spraul.

Here are some LINK to threads on this site. CHECK OUT SMEDES. Maybe he will give you and your friends some middle ground to discuss!

www.gregboyd.org/gbfront/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=567


Back to Top
 

geebob
Registered Member


Date Joined Jul 2001
Total Posts : 94
 
   Posted 10/31/2002 5:00 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
thanks fellas. anyone have opinions on the most respectable and challenging critics of open theism?

Greg Boyd, If your reading this, I'm hoping to hear from you. Do you feel that anyone has hit any nails on the head or come close?

If it turns out that they're all pathetic, I'd still like to hear what the best ones are.

I will gladly pay you teusday for a hamburger today.

-Wimpy

Edited by - geebob on 10/31/2002 10:08:47 AM
Back to Top
 

honorman
Registered Member


Date Joined Oct 2002
Total Posts : 1137
 
   Posted 10/31/2002 10:28 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I think Providence and Prayer by Terrance Tiessen is critical of the open view, in a well done way. The best (and I use that term loosely), critic of open theism in book form is Ware's God's Lesser Glory, but it really isn't very good. I am still waiting...

Back to Top
 

geebob
Registered Member


Date Joined Jul 2001
Total Posts : 94
 
   Posted 10/31/2002 11:03 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I think I've heard as much and I've been wondering if something has come out that has done a better job than ware's book.

I'm thinking of picking up that book you just put a thread up for since it has an essay by William Lane craig who I understand is supposed to be a good philosopher and respectable scholar.

I will gladly pay you teusday for a hamburger today.

-Wimpy
Back to Top
 
New Topic Post Reply Printable Version
   
Forum Information
Currently it is Monday, November 09, 2026 1:37 PM (GMT -6)
There are a total of 97,718 posts in 6,040 threads.
In the last 3 days there were 0 new threads and 0 reply posts. View Active Threads