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Terry_Baxter
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Date Joined Jan 2002
Total Posts : 187
| Posted 5/10/2003 6:54 PM (GMT -6) |   | This message was sent to the AR Talk listserv (no copywrite reserved, but I did edit out the author's email address).
I repost it because (a) the tone is interesting, (b) you may not be aware of the sites the author mentions and (c) some may be interested in the future 'anti-openness' site mentioned at the end.
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Greetings to the multiplicitous lists that I participate in,
Recently, during a skim of the net, I noticed a glaring LACK of
websites which dealt with the heresy of Open Theism from a Reformed Perspective.
Other than the 15-20 articles written by John Piper over at his website (he has a page devoted to the issue), to my knowledge, there are none. The old Edgren Fellowship site has gone the way of the dinosaur and outside of the non-Calvinist-friendly 'BattleForGod' website by Max Herrera (which is a good resource), ain't much out there. Meanwhile, the heresy grows with at least TWO major websites (biblicalanswers.com or .org I believe, and opentheism.org) and a string of smaller sites and pages.
Thus, I'm planning on devoting a subdirectory on my site to Open Theism somewhere around October or November of this year. I will have a domain name (GODExalted.org) pointed to it and would like to have as much Reformed material dealing with all different areas of the debate (i.e.- God and Time, Exhaustive Foreknowledge, Theodicy, Providence, etc...).
College and Seminary level professors (*COUGH COUGH CHAD BRAND COUGH*), please contact some of your colleagues on this issue. All interested parties may contact me here at [omitted by poster-tb] I will have a skeleton site up by mid-Summer after I get my site back up.
Thanks much!
Soli Deo Gloria (To God Alone Be the Glory),
Kerry Gilliard
Director/Founder
Theologically Correct dot Com Ministries
http://www.theologicallycorrect.com
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AOL: BeAManOfGod1914
"Look Lord!", said the angel. "The humans have come up with the theory of libertarian free will, just like You said they would!"
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frog
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| Posted 5/10/2003 7:12 PM (GMT -6) | | Hi!
Great name on a site: "Theologically Correct dot Com Ministries". Shows a lot of distance to oneself and ones opinions :-)
/Roger
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Tom
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| Posted 5/10/2003 8:27 PM (GMT -6) | | Saruman gathers his Orc armies! Make ready and let us ride! My sword has not seen blood in a long time.
The interesting thing was that Kerry didn't even list this site an an open view site.
Tom
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Terry_Baxter
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Date Joined Jan 2002
Total Posts : 187
| Posted 5/27/2003 4:31 AM (GMT -6) | | Here's another message from the same listserv, different author.
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I [James White} will be debating Greg Stafford in Tampa, Florida, Friday, December 5,
2003. The topic will be, "Jesus: God or a god?"
Also, for the few interested, Multnomah plans on printing _Debating
Calvinism: Five Points, Two Views_, containing the written debate
between myself and Dave Hunt on Calvinism, in December as well. For those interested, Dave Hunt and I discussed this subject a few years ago on KPXQ in Phoenix. The Real Audio version of the program is available at:
http://www.straitgate.com/jwdh1.ram
http://www.straitgate.com/jwdh1b.ram
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I haven't listened to the debate or reviewed the book on Calvinism, but I thought some here might be interested or have something to add.
TB
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One Love
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Total Posts : 13888
| Posted 8/24/2003 9:14 AM (GMT -6) | | One more thing, Xarminian. For our conversation, let's set some parameters. Let's start here.
1Cor. 13:1
If I speak in the tongues of mortals and of angels, but do not have love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3 If I give away all my possessions, and if I hand over my body so that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing.
1Cor. 13:4
Love is patient; love is kind; love is not envious or boastful or arrogant 5 or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; 6 it does not rejoice in wrongdoing, but rejoices in the truth. 7 It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
1Cor. 13:8
Love never ends. But as for prophecies, they will come to an end; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will come to an end. 9 For we know only in part, and we prophesy only in part; 10 but when the complete comes, the partial will come to an end. 11 When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child; when I became an adult, I put an end to childish ways. 12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then we will see face to face. Now I know only in part; then I will know fully, even as I have been fully known. 13 And now faith, hope, and love abide, these three; and the greatest of these is love.
I understand that you think that open view theists are wrong. And probably heretical. Fine. But PLEASE get something. Understand that to the extent that things that we do are NOT circumscribed by love, they are NOTHING. If we cannot couch our discussions here with each other in genuine love for each other, then we are DENYING our mutually claimed Christianity. If we end up disagreeing, fine. But let's do so without defacing ourselves before our fellow believers and human beings.
Let's be good, 'kay? Sweet. 
"I've been converted three times. The first was to traditional Christianity; the second to honesty and the third was to the Love of God and man (humanity) The third was the real conversion. The first two were preliminary."
--Nels Ferre, a theologian speaking of his spiritual journey with the Triune God
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