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BBBCanada
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   Posted 5/20/2003 3:02 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Thank you John! I'm really not sure how Tigress got an insult out of that. I even said it was a good subject! What I'm saying is that Tigress IN EFFECT is asking questions concerning personal guidance. And IMHO, these are questions of a very practical matter.

RD said:
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How do you know God wants you to have a spouse? I don't know how that can be definitively known.


This is exactly the kind of stuff that I'm talking about. No matter what view you take concerning guidance, whether it is a blueprint view or a wisdom view, you still have to deal with life. And that means circumstances, motives, desires, authorities, counsel from others, etc. And even when you think you are almost 100% sure you "have the mind of God" on something, there will always be some doubt. Unless we have some sort of telephone line or spiritual video of God telling us exactly what he wants for our lives, then we are left in a rather ambiguous position.

Brandon
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Laika
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   Posted 5/20/2003 3:41 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
ReasonableDoubt lets her hair down:
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Tigress- ever watch Jerry Springer?? There are a lot of ugly people who are married...:)



LOL, and I'm one of them!




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Tigress
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   Posted 5/20/2003 5:09 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
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Tigress- ever watch Jerry Springer?? There are a lot of ugly people who are married...:)

I think it's a mistake to think Christians are any different than anyone else. They may say that they only look on the inner person - but let's face it, in our society looks matter - and that doesn't make any difference what religion you are.

To answer your question - "If a person has done all this, and still hasn't been provided with a spouse, and God wants him/her to have one, but all of the best potential ones have refused for whatever reason, what does that say about prayer, God's will, free agents, etc.? "

How do you know God wants you to have a spouse? I don't know how that can be definitively known.
Regardless, God doesn't HAVE to do anything, he doesn't have to supply anyone w/ the right spouse.
I just think the more one dwells on what they don't have, the worse off they are, they make themselves unhappy, and thus other people are not attracted to them anyway.



My whole point is that Christians need to start being different from the world in this area just as much as any other sin. This is after all a sin to judge people based upon looks/appearance.

Tigress

The Angel of the Lord encamps around those who fear Him, and He delivers them.
-Psalm 34:7
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Laplace
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   Posted 5/20/2003 6:11 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Geez, what started as a simple question has ballooned into...something not so simple.

Tigress,

I may be wrong, but perhaps the key motivation for your question is to try to seek answers to explain your pain and frustration at finding a husband. I do not criticize you for this as many (including myself) have struggled with this.

Therefore, you may be asking yourself?
- Am I wrong for wanting a husband (Ans: No)
- Have my desires not been met because of sin (Ans: Probably not)
- What is "wrong" with me? (Ans: This fallen world is "what's wrong")
- Is it wrong for me to ask "Why?" (Ans: David, Habakkuk, Jeremiah, even Jesus did. So, no).
- Will prayer help? (Ans: Always, although it won't always be the help you may intend)
- What can I do to deal with my pain in the meantime? (Ans: Pray, endure, build friendships, pray, hobbies, be happy for others, pray, make opportunities for finding a husband, fight bitterness, pray, keep a journal/diary, smile, FORGIVE, pray)

One final note on the subject of beauty:
I believe beauty is a wholistic trait. Meaning that what makes a person "beautiful" is a culmination of the entire personna including the spiritual, psychological, emotional, and the all-familiar physical. Some of these aspects we can't influence very much, some we can. Focusing or exluding on any one alone is bad. Remember that God created the concept of beauty and eros. But it is we who have wrongfully put TOO MUCH emphasis on physical appearance.

I just remember a quote someone said about an attractive girl: "This girl was frustrated with his boyfriend because he was only interested in physical things. And that's exactly the advertisement she gave him."

So "advertise" what you'd like. I think in the long term you'll be much better off.




"Balance in all things" - Dak'kon, Planescape Torment
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