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anewbeginning
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   Posted 5/17/2003 3:30 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hi:


I just wanted anyone's thoughts on what love is, or maybe what perfect love is. God's type of love. I went to Matrix reloaded last night with my wife and while I was watching the movie, a thought occured to me: Does absolute love require vulnerability? You see, I have had difficulty completely trusting my wife (or anyone else for that matter)and for some reason, while watching Neo and Trinity, I had an epiphany. Well maybe not an epiphany but this thought really struck me. My love for my wife could reach a new level of completeness, if I wholly trusted her.
Only in OT is God vulnerable and capable of making this leap.

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Matthew Timothy Short
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   Posted 5/17/2003 4:41 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

Does God trust me and with what ; does God love me and how . . . rather than answering your question, how would you answer mine
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   Posted 5/17/2003 4:52 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
quote:

I just wanted anyone's thoughts on what love is, or maybe what perfect love is. God's type of love. Only in OT is God vulnerable and capable of making this leap.



Check out the beginning of Job. Satan appears before God and God starts to brag. What does God brag about? Any of the wonderful things He has created and had total control over? No. He brags about Job over whom He doesn't have control. God takes a risk. Fine, take away all the good things God has given Job, God still trusts Job to honor God, not for the things He gives, but just because He's God.
God's reputation is in the hands of Job. That is trust.

Trust involves investing your reputation* in others.

*among other things





Even though the skies are blue, don't they let the sunshine through?
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Matthew Timothy Short
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   Posted 5/17/2003 5:10 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Wonderfully said, Laika . . . That is trust.




From here in left field, my Father appears masculine. -Tim
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anewbeginning
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   Posted 5/18/2003 1:56 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I like the example you used Laika. There is a deepness in that sort of relationship, a sort of "oneness" between the two involved. Isn't that what this is all about, God seeking out those who will trust in Him fully, who He can trust with His name. Christianity seems to be all about God becoming vulnerable, no?
Any Calvinists or determinists or just plain old Arminians reading this thread? I'd like your thoughts. Can a God-human relationship reach the same level in your system?




Edited by - anewbeginning on 05/18/2003 06:59:22 AM
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