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 Date Joined Jun 2001 Total Posts : 516 | Posted 6/28/2001 4:35 PM (GMT -6) |   | Message pneumatika 03/22/01 1:08 PM
Compatibilism
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm having trouble locating any good definition of compatibilism. At first, I thought it was equivalent to a non-Reformed Calvinistic understanding of predestination (such as held generally by Calvinistic Baptists). Now I am not sure.
Could anyone explain what compatabilism is and contrast it to OVT?
Thanks,
--that Pneumatika guy
Posted Originally From: Christus Victor Ministries
ghost-dog-girl 03/22/01 11:32 AM
RE: Compatabilism
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here's how I understand compatibilism: predestination is compatible with morally responsible free will. OVT agrees with Arminians who consider compatibilism a contradiction. I invite correction if I am mistaken in my understanding of compatibilism. GDG
Posted Originally From: Christus Victor Ministries
Mephi2K 03/22/01 1:30 PM
RE: RE: Compatabilism
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- G-D-G,
I'd agree with you. In the context of our discussion here, compatibilists would say that we should exhibit COMPLEMENTARITY with respect to predestination/moral accountability and divine sovereignty/human agency. They would say that biblical evidence leaves us no other choice.
Meph
Posted Originally From: Christus Victor Ministries
TGB 03/22/01 1:39 PM
RE: RE: RE: Compatabilism
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mephi-
You're talking about compatibilism in the third person. Does that betowken something significant?
Tom
Posted Originally From: Open Theism Information Site
ghost-dog-girl 03/22/01 1:49 PM
Tweek
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mephi said: "I'd agree with you."
GDG replies: !!!
Mephi said: "[Compatibilists] would say that biblical evidence leaves us no other choice." (interesting "choice" of words...)
GDG replies: Of course, Open theists and Arminians also base their conclusions about free will on biblical evidence.
I would like to tweek my understanding of compatibilism slightly (Meph, let me know if I stray): METICULOUS predestination is compatible with morally responsible free will. I add the word "meticulous" because both Open theists and Arminians believe that corporate predestination is compatible with free will. GDG
Posted Originally From: Christus Victor Ministries
pneumatika 03/23/01 5:34 AM
Meticulous and corporate
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GDG: I don't want to assume I know what you mean by meticulous and corporate predestination. Could you elaborate on these terms for me?
--that Pneumatika guy
Posted Originally From: Christus Victor Ministries
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