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| Posted 6/26/2001 6:03 PM (GMT -6) |   | Yo Room-
Does God deliberate between options, or does he just “know” and “choose”? If he possess exhaustive definite foreknowledge of all possibilities, which by definition includes his knowing all possible responses HE could make depending on which possibilities are actualized, then how are we to account for the claim that God “deliberates”? Wherefore deliberate? When one of the billions of possibilities becomes reality, then I would think God’s response would be instantaneous (in divine terms that’s pretty fast!), automatic. What’s there to “think” about? To ponder? In the end, wouldn’t a God who has all possibilities and their possible responses eternally archived and is just waiting to see which eternally foreknown possibilities are actualized so that he could give his eternally foreknown response to that possibility be incredibly bored?
It’s late and I’m in a “let’s try to find some more weaknesses in the OV” mood.
Tom
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| Posted 6/26/2001 6:05 PM (GMT -6) | | I would say that God deliberated at the act of Creation. At that time, He solidified what reality that He would create and how he would play it out.
But here is my question. The subject is a little disturbing to me, too, to be honest.
How in the WORLD do we know that God gets bored AT ALL? Isn't this an assumption upon which a significant portion of discussion has taken place in the discussion of openness vs. classicalist theology? Don't we just take OUR experiences of boredom and attribute them to God WITHOUT real warrant? Isn't this the quintessential example of our anthropocentrism of theology?
Just my thing...
Meph
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| Posted 6/26/2001 6:07 PM (GMT -6) | | Meph: How in the WORLD do we know that God gets bored AT ALL? Isn't this an assumption upon which a significant portion of discussion has taken place in the discussion of openness vs. classicalist theology? Don't we just take OUR experiences of boredom and attribute them to God WITHOUT real warrant? Isn't this the quintessential example of our anthropocentrism of theology?
Tom: It was 2:30 AM. What d’ya expect?
In response, the Scriptures never attribute boredom to God. They DO attribute regret, change of mind, surprise, and other emotions to God. So we do have to deal biblically with those. We don’t have to deal biblically with boredom. I suspect the attribution of boredom to God (something I have NOT heard any Over do) might follow logically (or illogically, as the case may be) from the kind of speculation people do at 2 AM while watching Claude van Dam (sp?) fight.
Tom 
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| Posted 6/26/2001 6:08 PM (GMT -6) | | "And we only smoke when bored
So we do two packs a day
And we've lost the difference
Between and bored and lonely anyway"
-Alone by The Beautiful South-
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