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03/09/01 8:14 AM
Ontology for the eager, the innocent, and the doomed
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Catchy title for a thread, ain't it?
Meph, Modes, and anyone else who dares--I came across something in my homework last night that I would really like to get your opinions on.
Robert Jenson (in his discussion on the Being of God in Christian Dogmatics, vol. 1) has an interesting response to the classic scholastic question, Does God know what is good, and therefore will it; or is the good good because God wills it?
He says: "God is freedom. God is neither mind using will nor will using mind; God is creativity that is both. God is transforming and faithful liveliness. God is spirit." (p. 174--Jenson goes on from here to explain what he means by "spirit" by contrasting it with the common religious conception of "disembodied personhood" that is either an "impotent mind or an aimless will." He says, "To our salvation, the real God is neither. He is the living union of the Father and the Son." I would be happy to supply more context if that would be helpful to you.)
What do you guys make of this? Does Jenson really solve the scholastic riddle or is this a copout?
Ontologically challenged,
GDG
Posted Originally From: Christus Victor Ministries
ghost-dog-girl
03/09/01 8:11 AM
Shameless name-dropping
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Guess what. I hung out with Wolfhart Pannenberg yesterday.
For those of you who are in the Twin Cities area, he will be speaking tonight at the University of St. Thomas. For more info: http://www.stthomas.edu/calendars/publicevents/showevent.cfm?EventID=-1946572805
Tomorrow (Saturday 3/10) the Templeton Foundation is hosting a conference on science & religion at St. Thomas and the speakers include: Ian Barbor, John R. Albright, Carol Rausch Albright, Stanley Grenz, John Haught, and Wolfhart Pannenberg.
Check it out if you can! GDG
Posted Originally From: Christus Victor Ministries
snowbunny222
03/09/01 8:40 AM
RE: Ontology for the eager, the innocent, and the doomed
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I guess Im a little new here, not to mention Im definitely not an expert, but I was reading your message, and in respsonse, if I had to guess what he meant, was that maybe asking the question of whether God knows something or not is to attach too much of a human quality onto something that is not human...I guess Ive always had trouble in the definition area, I've always thought that within our questions and our endless "journies", we try too hard to create some sort of image, when the reality could be that there is no image and there is no reality when it comes to God...
S.B.
Posted Originally From: Christus Victor Ministries
springs
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03/09/01 9:03 PM
RE: Ontology for the eager, the innocent, and the doomed
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Ghost,
yepper that's a cool thread title. You should be a writer ha.
So is this guy saying that we shouldn't have the categories of
'realist' or 'nominalist' that God is a sort of nomrealist?
Is he trying to sort out a paradox? Do you find he is making sense?
curious, but mostly in the dark
springs
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