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| Posted 6/28/2001 4:51 PM (GMT -6) |   | Message
trosie
04/06/01 11:35 PM
Angels and libertarian freewill
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I asked this before but don't believe that I received any bites. Could someone tell me if angels (those that are suppose to guard us) can choose not to do their job and decide not to guard us in a spiritual battle based upon libertarian freewill?
Personally, I like security folks!
trosie
Posted Originally From: Christus Victor Ministries
RevivalTheology
04/07/01 8:46 AM
RE: Angels and libertarian freewill
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Well, as an asside, I'd like to know where the notion of everyone having a "guardian angel" comes from, biblically speaking.
But to answer your question, I believe they do, in fact, have the ability to choose not to obey the commands of God - but that would make them rebels, now wouldn't it, and subject to the same thing judgement that occurred when Satan rebelled.
In the Lamb
Posted Originally From: Christus Victor Ministries
Triskal
04/07/01 12:51 PM
RE: Angels and libertarian freewill
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"...God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment." (2 Peter 2:4}
We know from this verse that angels, at one point, did sin along with Satan and were cast out of heaven and into hell to await judgment. We also know from 1 Peter 3:22 that angels are obedient to God. Now the question is, if at one point angels did sin, do they still sin? If they did sin, we know they must have also had freewill. Do they still have freewill? If not, what changed things? If they do, then does God still throw angels out of heaven for sinning? Job 4:18 tells us that God doesn't place trust in his angels, and at times must charge them with error. Does this error mean sin, or simply ignorance?
In His Grip,
Matt
Posted Originally From: Christus Victor Ministries
ilgwamh
04/07/01 11:36 PM
Guardian Angels...
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The notion of guardian angels appears to be Biblical. Try Matthew 18:10, Acts 12:15, and Luke 16:22.
Peace,
Vinnie
Posted Originally From: Christus Victor Ministries
Proverbs23_23
04/10/01 10:05 AM
~ sorry, my post messed up and I couldn't get it back~:-s
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~ SOOOO......HAPPY EASTER!!~
BE BLESSED EXCEEDINGLY,
proverbs
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pneumatika
04/09/01 10:15 AM
RE: Angels and libertarian freewill
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A good question.....do angels have a liberterian free will?
If yes, then what are "elect angels"?
Posted Originally From: Christus Victor Ministries
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