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Originally posted by Lee Merrill

Hi JEE,

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Lee: Are you saying that if 99.99999% had entered the land, the prophecy still would have failed? Thus no one could die, even, until they all reached the promised land...

JEE: No, I'm saying that your contention that "Well, Joshua and Caleb" received the promise, while of course true, misses the whole point SOC is trying to make; that is:

Heb 3:7 ¶ Therefore, just as the Holy Spirit says, "TODAY IF YOU HEAR HIS VOICE,
8 DO NOT HARDEN YOUR HEARTS AS WHEN THEY PROVOKED ME, AS IN THE DAY OF TRIAL IN THE WILDERNESS,
9 WHERE YOUR FATHERS TRIED {Me} BY TESTING {Me,} AND SAW MY WORKS FOR FORTY YEARS.
10 "THEREFORE I WAS ANGRY WITH THIS GENERATION, AND SAID, 'THEY ALWAYS GO ASTRAY IN THEIR HEART, AND THEY DID NOT KNOW MY WAYS';
11 AS I SWORE IN MY WRATH, 'THEY SHALL NOT ENTER MY REST.'"

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I certainly agree with Scripture! I'm not sure what your exact point is, here, though. Is every promise made to the nation of Israel applicable to every single Israelite, unconditionally? I think this passage says the opposite:

Hebrews 4:1 Therefore, since the promise of entering his rest still stands, let us be careful that none of you be found to have fallen short of it.

The promise is there, but some may fall short of it. Not everyone! But some may...

Blessings,
Lee

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Jeff: So there is a remnant aspect AND a future national fulfillment.

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JEE: So now do you see what our point was with regard to Romans 9-11? "The promise is there, but some may fall short of it. Not everyone! But some may..."

To those who fell short, the Word of God had not failed (Romans 9:6); those who fell did so because of their own unbelief, and thus rejected the purposes of God for themselves, bringing upon themselves the judgment that was fitting. This is consistently true throughout Scripture--blessings for obedience, cursings for disobedience.

John 1:11 He came to His own, and those who were His own did not receive Him.
12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, {even} to those who believe in His name...

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