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Ochuk
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   Posted 10/29/2003 7:24 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I came accross and interesting article by Edwin K. P. Chong interacting with Divine Foreknowledge: Four Views (http://www.engr.colostate.edu/~echong/pubs/apologetics/open-theism.pdf).

The charge of the essay was that Doc used an Ad Baculum Stratagem in that he argued we need to build our philosophy off of exegesis instead of the other way around. I think it is somewhat overblown, but he raised a good point: what philosophical influences drive the Open View's exegisis? We all know that Open Theists charge Classical Theists with presuposing an unhealthy amount of Platonic/Hellenistic principles; what kind of philosophies, in your opinion, drive the Open View?


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Alan Rhoda
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   Posted 10/29/2003 11:35 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Interesting article, Ochuk.

I think the author has a point in that I don't think it possible (nor even desirable) that exegesis should always drive philosophy and never vice-versa. Rather, since all truth is God's truth we should strive for a kind of "reflective equilibrium" between Scripture, philosophy, science, experience, etc., in which all relevant sources of knowledge are given their due.

Boyd's claim that "exegesis should drive philosophy" has a point for those who hold a so-called "high" view of Scripture, namely, the view that it is the inspired word of God and therefore inerrant in the originals with respect to what it teaches. For given the correctness of the high view of Scripture, the teachings of Scripture are more reliable than other sources of knowledge, and so when they stand in apparent conflict with the results of philosophy, science, or what have you, we need to take seriously the possibility that our philosophy, science, etc. is mistaken. On the other hand, while Scripture is presumably infallible, our interpretations of it are not. So when our interpretations stand in apparent conflict with the results of philosophy, science, etc., we need to take seriously the possibility that our interpretation of Scripture is mistaken.

Finally, Chong is mistaken is charging Doc with the fallacy of "argumentatum ad baculum" (Appeal to Force). This fallacy is only committed when one tries to persuade through use of force and threats. But Doc's claim doesn't make any threats, not even veiled ones. If Doc commits a fallacy here it is not that he appeals to force, but that his use of the "exegesis should drive philosophy" claim is insufficiently nuanced to score significant points in the openness debate. I think we should be fair to Doc, however, and point out that plenty of Calvinists and other opponents have made the same kind of unnuanced charge against the proponents of open theism, namely, that they are putting the philosophical cart before the hermeneutical horse. In either case, the charge is one of faulty hermeneutical methodology. The force of the charge depends on whether one is indeed giving the Scriptural text its due vis-a-vis the claims of philosophy, or whether one standardly tries to make Scripture fit a philosophical procrustean bed by ad hoc hermeneutics. I don't see that either side in the debate is necessarily innocent or guilty of that charge, thus I don't think that blanket accusations on either side are particularly helpful.

Anyway, that's my take.
Alan


Do small things as if they were great, because of the majesty of Christ who does them in us and lives our life. Do great things as if they were small and easy, because of his almighty power.
-- Blaise Pascal

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GregBoyd
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   Posted 10/29/2003 5:21 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
The Four Views book wasn't tagged as a stricdtly philosophical book. We were simply asked to make the strongest case possible for our views to an evangelical audience.

Given that the majority of the audience didn't know the biblical basis of open theism, given that up to that date opponents were (and still are) repeatedly criticizing the open view as being biblically unfounded, given that Scripture is more important to evangelicals than philosophy, and given that I strongly suspected my "opponents" would lean more to philosophy than exegesis, I thought it best to root my initial essay in Scripture and save most of the philosophical stuff for my replies.

I think the essay helped, but looking back on it, it could have been better.

Doc


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