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Jewgrass
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Date Joined Sep 2001
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| Posted 1/6/2002 9:07 AM (GMT -6) |   | I'm back in Austin, and my good Calvinistic friends aren't here yet. Instead, my hard-core anti-anything-they-dont-agree-with "friends" are here. Last night I had a heckuva deep conversation regarding Armenianism vs. Calvinism. After spending hours of being bashed by the Calvinists, I asked if they even thought Armenianism was evangelical. They answered in the affirmative. I think asked if they believed open-theist was evangelical. The answer was a definite NO!
I find it funny how hard-determinist-hyper Calvinists are not condemned. These types are also the biggest opponents of open-theist... yet I believe they are sister theologies! Hard-determinists believe that God knows the future BECAUSE he decrees it. Open-theists agree that God could only know the future if he decreed it, but believe that he hasn't and its left "open" to the choices and actions of free agents. Since these two theologies are so similar, its strange how open-theist is so heartily condemned, yet hard-determinism, is accepted.
I'm not even an open-theist, but I get really upset that the majority of Evangelical Christianity supports the evil condemning insulting statements by many hard-determinists. Could open-theist be wrong? Since we're fallible humans, of course!!!!!!! BUT SO COULD DETERMINISM!
I respect the open-theists in that they do not attack other Christians, and in this way, appear more Christ like. You can be an opponent of open-theism without breaking down into name-calling and flat-out insulting. Greg Boyd is an opponent of what he calls "the blueprint worldview", but he doesn't attack individuals! I commend Piper for his apology for attacking Boyd as an individual, but I just think its obvious there's something wrong when one of the largest theological positions in Christianity expresses nothing but hate.
Had to get that off my chest.
--Jewgrass
"Anyone who claims to know all the answers doesn't really know very much." --1 Corinthians 8:2 (New Living Translation)
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June
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Date Joined Dec 2001
Total Posts : 105
| Posted 1/6/2002 2:08 PM (GMT -6) | |
anybody else out there sick of hearing the word (in)tolerance? when i hear that i think of somebody just putting up a good front on the outside while the hate is still burning inside. it's like you don't really have to love your neighbor (or his/her ideas) but just pretend you do.
Just had to get that off my chest.
June
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Jewgrass
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Date Joined Sep 2001
Total Posts : 113
| Posted 1/6/2002 6:34 PM (GMT -6) | | quote:
anybody else out there sick of hearing the word (in)tolerance? when i hear that i think of somebody just putting up a good front on the outside while the hate is still burning inside. it's like you don't really have to love your neighbor (or his/her ideas) but just pretend you do.
Just had to get that off my chest.
June, I'm not sure by your post if your mocking me or agree with me, or what. Please clarify.
--Jewgrass
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June
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Date Joined Dec 2001
Total Posts : 105
| Posted 1/7/2002 6:56 PM (GMT -6) | | yo Jewgrass, i'm not mocking you at all. you had a great post. i've just heard a bunch of stuff about tolerance lately and i don't like it. we should be loving of our brothers, not just pharisee-loving them, know what i'm saying?
jewgrass-not picking on you i just felt like posting that little piece. sorry if it sounded bad.
June
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