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John Earp
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   Posted 12/12/2003 9:39 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
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Originally posted by BJS
Why do you keep citing this verse?


Because in the other thread, honorman has now questioned my Christianity (in calling me a legalist) simply because of my views on this subject. Because in private emails someone has called me an "oddball" for holding this position.

Because to even question the propriety of celebrating Christmas is considered nearly blasphemous by mainstream evangelicals. Because you have now basically called me silly for my conviction on this subject.

I note in your profile you are an attorney, Brett. Surely you understand the rules of evidence. I am merely presenting evidence that is well established by historians, presenting my reasons for not observing this holiday, and for this I am the subject of mocking, ridicule and even judgment by some here. I am even told by you that I should just chill. (In other words, I hear you and others saying, "You're not entitled to your conviction with regard to this, and you certainly aren't entitled to share it here."

As to whether I have condemned anyone here, I am only presenting evidence and my own conclusions based on that, in hopes that some may be persuaded. If a person can't be swayed by historical evidence, what will they be persuaded by?

Funny how so long as a person goes along with the pack on this board (or anywhere else) they are accepted. Don't rock the boat. Don't presenting anything upsetting to the status quo. Just be nice. Okay.

We all should be glad that a select few individuals in history have had the courage to stand up for their conviction of the truth.



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John Earp
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   Posted 12/12/2003 9:43 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
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Originally posted by honorman

John, YOU were the one that said that my post wasn't following reason. THerefore I tried to make it easy for you. Just because you don't agree with someone, doesn't mean it is unreasonable. But now that you are getting upset, I guess it is time to stop the dialogue. Yes, people do come from the emotional side, but apparently you are the one who is emotional about it.
Again, Merry Christmas


Honorman,

Snide comments like:

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Is that too hard for you to understand?


And:

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It may be, however, that your mind is too literal to do such a thing.


Are what I find insulting and unfair. I am well able to comprehend your position. I have been blessed with an above-average IQ, and I used to believe just as you do, so it is simply not true that I am unable to grasp what you're saying. I simply don't find your position persuasive.



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honorman
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   Posted 12/12/2003 10:18 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I will leave with an appology. I did not mean them to be that harsh. For that I do apologize. However, my position was very reasonable; you not agreeing with it does not make it less so. And you did nothing to refute it...however, I think it is time to agree to disagree. My final comment on the subject is in the other post...
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   Posted 12/12/2003 5:35 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Chiam asked about God's control of the weather. How'd we get to arguing about Christmas?

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honorman
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   Posted 12/12/2003 6:05 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Life is full of strange twistsEvil
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John Earp
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   Posted 12/12/2003 6:33 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Tom: Polycarp wished us a Merry Christmas, to which I replied that I didn't believe in celebrating Christmas, after which several proceeded to chastise me for provoking them all so and being, I guess, an extremist. (Things got a bit more heated in the new thread I started in the Christianity & Culture section).

The latest thing I get is an email from Polycarp saying I'm just getting what I've been dishing out regularly. Oh well. I honestly don't recall interacting with Polycarp prior to yesterday.

Anyway, I wanted to say to everyone that I'm sorry for messing up this thread, I'm sorry that my convictions about Romish holidays are offensive to many of you, and I want you all to know how much I DO usually appreciate interacting here with other Openness folks.



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honorman
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   Posted 12/12/2003 7:48 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I would also like to repeat my apology to John (for I did come off much too heavy-handed), and to everyone else. I hope everyone will continue...
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