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Newcomb
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   Posted 4/18/2004 4:56 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
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Originally posted by PotOnWheel

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Dimensions are necessary to existence.


Relations are necessary to existence.


Wow, something Pot and I can agree on :)
All relationships depend on dimensions. Are you late to church? The relationship is between you and time and the time Church starts, and so on. . .
Let’s look at human relationships.
Am I “close” to my brother?
Well, what do we mean by “close?” It can mean close in four dimensions; he lives a mile away and I can get there quickly if I choose (time=4th). Or it could mean close emotionally, that is, in agreement on many issues. For the sake of argument let’s say we share the same interest in music, without the 4 dimensions, there can be no music. Everything we “relate” to (forming relationships) is in the 4 basic dimensions, again, time being needed for all, as well as the other dimensions.
We take dimensions for granted because we rarely need to think about them unless we are measuring one, the time it takes to do something, the distance to home or work, etc. They are so common we forget about them or take them for granted.
Yes, God is temporal, always has been, always will be. The “eternity” discussed is a word describing the amount of time he has.
Endless or infinite time.


"Neuk'em"

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Calvin_and_Hops
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   Posted 4/18/2004 8:13 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
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All relationships depend on dimensions.


Identical is a relationship. But while what is identical (at least in creation) has dimensions, dimension is not intrinsic to what "identical" is. If there is size, size can be measured. But measuring the size of two things does not make them identical. Identical, as an aspect of realtionality is not a subset of dimensionality. It is a relationship, a qualitative one; not a quantitative one.
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