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brandi
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| Posted 9/8/2002 7:22 PM (GMT -6) |   | This is for anyone interested. Since September 11, 2001, so many have asked WHERE IS GOD IN TIMES OF TROUBLE?
Join in viewing:
PBS Frontline: "Faith and Doubt at Ground Zero"
In the Twin Cities area it will be showing on PBS
• September 11, 2002, (Wednesday) -- 7:00 p.m.
• September 12, 2002, (Thursday) -- 1:00 a.m.
To locate broadcast times in other areas of the country contact: www.pbs.org/whatson/index.html PBS - TV Schedule (Keyword: "Faith & Doubt at Ground Zero")
~Brandi~
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 9/9/2002 2:19 AM (GMT -6) | | Chicago Public Radio interviewed a Rabbi from Chicago who said that after 9/11 their Messianic vision is of a God who is there, but who is more distant.
In Christ we know the revelation of God who is transcendent, immanent, and personal.
To the news that a tower had fallen (Luke 13) Jesus message was "repent." | | Back to Top | | |
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brandi
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| Posted 9/9/2002 5:36 AM (GMT -6) | | Al2Si2H4O9 quote:
To the news that a tower had fallen (Luke 13) Jesus message was "repent."
A VERY intelligent woman told me that God had revealed to her that because our nation did not take the trauma that happened on 9-11 as a warning to turn back to Him ... greater tragedy was most likely ahead for the United States. She said that God revealed to her that 20 cities were going to get hit one after another within minutes. She said that God had removed His hand of protection and allowed the tragedy on 9-11 in an attempt to get people to turn back to Him and yet shortly after the tragedy last year people returned to their rebellious ways.
I know in the Old Testament God ALLOWED things to happen. I know that God warned people in the Old Testament often of the tragedy that awaited them if they didn't turn from their wicked ways and repent ... so perhaps this woman has a message from God? Perhaps we are treading on thin ice? It can be so confusing at times.
~Brandi~
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 9/11/2002 11:25 AM (GMT -6) | | Thanks for sharing that, Brandi.
Since it is different, though, than the passage I quoted, I'll post the passage. I'd remarked: "To the news that a tower had fallen (Luke 13) Jesus message was 'repent.'" I think the meaning is that whether you get hit that day, or live out your whole life, neither matter. You will STILL be judged...one way or another. So, "Repent!"
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"Repent or Perish"
Luke 13: 1 Now there were some present at that time who told Jesus about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mixed with their sacrifices. 2 Jesus answered, "Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans because they suffered this way? 3 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish. 4 Or those eighteen who died when the tower in Siloam fell on them--do you think they were more guilty than all the others living in Jerusalem? 5 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish."
So, having nothing to do with towers or cities, the fact remains: "But unless you repent, you too will all perish."
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brandi
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| Posted 9/12/2002 4:20 AM (GMT -6) | | quote:
You will STILL be judged...one way or another. So, "Repent!"
Amen! I agree. Sorry if I took your passage out of context from what you meant.  When I read the word "repent" in the same sentence as "tower" I thought of what this woman had told me and I wanted to share it.
I guess it really is not as important to try to discern when God is punishing us and when Satan is totally behind an evil event as it is to know that God desires ALL of us to repent because He loves us so passionately! Whether an act is a judgment from God or totally a direct evil attack that God allows due to freewill the one basic message remains the same and that is that we NEED God's mercy and grace. We each will stand before the judgment seat one day. No one knows their time nor your their hour.
Frontline was wonderfully done! I really felt for those who were feeling so much sorrow and were feeling abandoned by God. I was encouraged by some of the faith that some held unto in the midst of so much doubt.... There were so many good comments that the various people made. One comment that one of the gentleman shared really hit something for me. He said something to the effect that we are all like a molecule on a piece of hair and at any time that strand could be cut off. This statement sprang in me how powerless and meaningless we mere human beings are in contrast to this enormous universe, yet how much life and worth God gives to us when He takes residence within us. We by ourselves are NOTHING but HIS presence is EVERYTHING in us!
~Brandi~
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