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VisitingAgain
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| Posted 7/15/2005 9:26 PM (GMT -6) |   | "I'd be interested in seeing a biblical aurgument for monogamy as God's original plan. It seems like we always just assume this."
Genesis 2: 18: The Lord God said,... I will make a helper... for him.
A= ONE
Helper... not helpers
ONE HELPER
One Eve
Genesis 2:24: For this reason a man will leave his father and be united to his WIFE (one wife... does not say "wiveS" and they will become one flesh.
It was not until the fall of man, that polygomy and remarriage entered the picture. Had it remained as it was in the Garden... it was one man + one woman = God's ideal marriage. | | Back to Top | | |
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1Heart
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| Posted 7/16/2005 1:47 AM (GMT -6) | | VisitingAgain said..."I'd be interested in seeing a biblical aurgument for monogamy as God's original plan. It seems like we always just assume this." Genesis 2: 18: The Lord God said,... I will make a helper... for him. A= ONE Helper... not helpers ONE HELPER One Eve Genesis 2:24: For this reason a man will leave his father and be united to his WIFE (one wife... does not say "wiveS" and they will become one flesh. It was not until the fall of man, that polygomy and remarriage entered the picture. Had it remained as it was in the Garden... it was one man + one woman = God's ideal marriage.
Just a thought--something I discovered while reading a book called Why Not Women?. The Hebrew word for Eve is Ezer Kenegdo (I think I've got that right), which means one who is called alongside to sustain. It is used twenty times in the Old Testament, each time used for God in situations where His help is desperately needed ("I lift my eyes up, unto the mountains; where does my help [ezer kenegdo] come from? In other words the word for Eve says more about who God created her to be than what most people realize. Most women do not recognize their worth, do not realize that they were created to be more than "hamburger helper" in a relationship.
Jo-Anne
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MrIndifference
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| Posted 7/16/2005 3:34 AM (GMT -6) | | | I am still trying to hunt down support for this theory, but I believe that the Holy Spirit is the Mother/Wife figure in the Trinity. The HS was called the Helper like Eve was called the Helper that was given to Adam. Also in ancient Hebrew marriage customs, the new wife was supposed to work hand in hand with the mother-in-law. If the two women were unable to work together, that was the next best thing to grounds for divorce. Compare that to the incedent with Ananias and Sapphira. They were unable to work with the Holy Spirit so they had to go.
Biblical evidence that supports this theory is rather scarce, but if it is the case, what would that say about the role of women? The Trinity would take on the role of the archetypical family unit, which I think makes alot more sense than the three He's of the Godhead.
Just a quick tangent... Have you noticed how when God is dealing with the nation of Israel in the OT, He does it in a way that is rather remenescent of a father raising up His Child. His judgment and chastising take on a slightly different light. It becomes a more loving form of correction than the doom and gloom. Also in the NT, God deals with the Church much differently. It seems to me that He is treating us more as His Betrothed instead of daughter. God's relationship with us seems to be more romantic than parental.
Am I being heretical here?
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1Heart
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| Posted 7/16/2005 5:51 PM (GMT -6) | | MrIndifference said...
I have noticed that most people have a hangup when it comes to assigning gender to the members of the trinity. At the same time, most people see God the Father as a father figure, so they are and have been assigning gender to God all along. I am not going to say the the HS is a woman, but instead that when God created woman, she was modeled after the characteristics and function of the HS, just like men were modeled in many ways after both Christ and God the Father. I believe that when we start looking at the Trinity as a family unit we can start getting a clearer picture of who God is, the relationships between the different members of the Trinity which could help bring clarification to the different members of our human family unit and Gods ideal for how it should function, etc. Before we can really start doing that, we first have to recognize the Holy Spirits role in the Trinity as the mother figure. When we use the terms "he" or "it" aren't we neutering Her and in many ways diminishing the meaning behind the important role She plays?
Years ago I would not have dared to infer that there was a feminine gender within the Trinity. Now I rejoice in what I believe to be true with my whole heart--that I was not an add on, or a mutation of the original who was created in God's image. I am created in His image as well, which means that part of the imago dei is feminine, and perhaps part of the Trinity (the HS) is more feminine than the other parts. I know this is one-part mystery, one-part speculation, one-part theological debate ... BUT, what excites me is the realization that I am just as created in the image of God as a man is--different roles perhaps, but equal in worth. I'd go so far as to say that without women, the image of God is incomplete; both genders represent the image of God in creation. This may be stretching it, but, I tend to think of the Father as male; I relate to Him as a Father, and visibly Jesus was male--so I relate to Him in the same way, not to mention that He tells us that He is the exact representation of the Father. That leaves us with the Holy Spirit, so perhaps you're on to something, and not heretical at all; perhaps it is the HS who is feminine. If the other two are male, why can't the H.S. be predominantly female? There is a word for the HS that is definitely feminine. I don't know the original Hebrew word; I'll try and find it. Obviously though, things were not good with just the creation of Adam; it was incomplete; He created Eve, and then pronounced that it was good.
Jo-Anne
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