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Starkman
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   Posted 4/7/2005 12:07 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I just finished the book "Universal Salvation?" edited by Parrish and Partridge; a point and counter-point on Talbot's doctrine on universalism. What dawned on me was a relationship between the New Perspective on Paul and universalism.
 
According to the New Perspective (NP), the centrality of the gospel is the lordship of Jesus in view of His resurrection and His inauguration of a new covenant community. The centrality of the gospel message is the proclamation of another king, The King, and how this affects the world's perspective of its purpose and destiny. Modern concepts of defining the gospel, however, originate from the Reformational justification-by-faith theme and are carried forth today in an individualized missological emphasis; the salvific evidenced by life-change.
 
Where the NP makes more allowance for discussion about universalism is in its broader concept of "gospel." The confinement in NP proclamation is not within the soteriological but within the eschatological, namely, within kingdom reality; God's kingdom has burst upon the scene affording opportunity for all to partake. It is not that soteriology (justification by faith) is lacking, it is that soteriology is presented as a kingdom concept to be made known through the proclamation of Christ's lordship over all other lords. The modern proclamation of the gospel, however, begins obversely by presenting the justification-by-faith and then the lordship of Christ, if that is even brought into the concept of the "gospel." (Sadly, in many modern concepts of proclaming the gospel there is little said about the inauguration of the kingdom of God with the lordship of Christ presiding.)
 
Universalism is more aligned with the NP because one can see within the NP proclamation of the gospel a bigger and broader picture of God, His kingdom and His concept of salvation, rather than what is often soley a missiological mission for individual conversion and subsequent life-change. The NP opens the doors wider for God to love all, desire all, and to proclaim that He has done something about taking care of the problem of sin for all people.
 
Thoughts?
 
Starkman
 


My teacher used to say that whenever he read Scripture, he would always ask the question, "What does this have to say about the character of God?"  Working off his thinking, as I read Scripture, I have come to ask, "What does this have to say about the heart and passion of God's desire for relationship for us?

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Similitude
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   Posted 4/7/2005 12:45 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Starkman: Universalism is more aligned with the NP because one can see within the NP proclamation of the gospel a bigger and broader picture of God, His kingdom and His concept of salvation, rather than what is often soley a missiological mission for individual conversion and subsequent life-change. The NP opens the doors wider for God to love all, desire all, and to proclaim that He has done something about taking care of the problem of sin for all people.

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Jeff: Does the author address the question of why God took so long to get to this new "phase" of God's love?


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Starkman
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   Posted 4/7/2005 2:06 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hey wjs,

The New Perspective is not a new phase of God's love. It is a re-examination of the centrality of the gospel message; that it is not first justification by faith, as was the Reformer's thinking. Rather, it is the Lordship of Christ over the kingdom of God now present, active and available for all to experience. Neither God's love nor soteriology are reduced or decreased in the meaningfulness of each. It is just put in proper perspective. So, in that the centrality of the gospel message is Christ's lordship, the shift in emphasis makes way for more communication for universalism (My post is not an advocasy for universalism. I'm simply making an observation for discussion in view of past conversations on the board. That's all.

Starkman


My teacher used to say that whenever he read Scripture, he would always ask the question, "What does this have to say about the character of God?"  Working off his thinking, as I read Scripture, I have come to ask, "What does this have to say about the heart and passion of God's desire for relationship for us?

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Similitude
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   Posted 4/7/2005 2:36 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Thanks, Keith. I'm all for universalism; just trying to get a tight argument for it.


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   Posted 4/10/2005 9:19 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Interesting thoughts, Starkman. Very interesting.

The centrality of the Gospel is the Kingdom of God...where the Son of God is King.

Makes total sense to me.


"I've been converted three times. The first was to traditional Christianity; the second to honesty and the third was to the Love of God and man (humanity) The third was the real conversion. The first two were preliminary."

--Nels Ferre, a theologian speaking of his spiritual journey with the Triune God

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