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Similitude
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Posted 4/28/2005 8:05 PM (GMT -6)

A few years back, I heard of a book that argued that Christ was only a jewish prophet and that Paul pretty much created the "christian" theology on his own. Do any of you know of any books that argue positions like that?

wjs

Similitude
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Posted 4/28/2005 9:20 PM (GMT -6)

Just found a few books on Amazon by one Geza Vermes. Does anyone know whether this author is the best on the topic?

wjs

Laika
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Posted 4/29/2005 6:44 AM (GMT -6)

jefscott said...
A few years back, I heard of a book that argued that Christ was only a jewish prophet and that Paul pretty much created the "christian" theology on his own. Do any of you know of any books that argue positions like that?

I don't know any specific books but I think that is a dominant view. I was paging through a book on history once by Aldous Huxley and one section was about "Paul, the inventor of Christianity".

Similitude
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Posted 4/29/2005 6:46 AM (GMT -6)

Laika, I was just browsing Amazon some more this morning and I'm beginning to see the same thing. But I can't afford many books. Wish I knew which one was the best. Thanks!

wjs

Post Edited (jefscott) : 4/29/2005 6:55:08 AM (GMT-5)

Tom
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Posted 5/1/2005 7:01 AM (GMT -6)

Jeff-

Sounds like E. P. Sanders might be what you're looking for.

Tom

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0800618785/qid=1114948729/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-5474499-6870437?v=glance&s=books

Similitude
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Posted 5/1/2005 9:04 AM (GMT -6)

Yeah, I noticed his name in the Amazon lists. Thanks!

wjs

rsirkel
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Posted 5/2/2005 2:28 PM (GMT -6)

jefscott

I don't think E P Sanders argued that Paul Hellenized the gospel but the contrary, he argued for a Judaic understanding. His groundbreaking work is "Paul and Palestinian Judaism"

A. N. Wilson argued that Paul Hellenized the gospel so everyone could be included "Paul, The Mind of The Apostle".

I think the Hellenization paradigm is post Paul and has muddied the waters.

Peace

Ron

PS
If you find a book of reputation that argues Paul "created" christian theology and it was not the announcement of the fulfillment of God's promises through Israel in the person of His faithful one, Jesus, let us know.

Post Edited (rsirkel) : 5/2/2005 3:04:19 PM (GMT-5)

Tom
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Posted 5/2/2005 5:03 PM (GMT -6)

You're right Ron. I misunderstood Jeff. Sorry 'bout that.

Tom

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