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Tigress
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   Posted 10/16/2003 6:28 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I have a question about gossip. I and a couple of my co-workers experienced a little friction with each other this week, and I kept feeling upset about it for 3 days until I gossipped about it to another co-worker. Now the burden is lifted, I don't care at all about what happened, and haven't been worrying about it anymore.

Yet, I know it's wrong to say bad things about people behind their back. It's just that doing so was actually therapeutic for me - in this instance, at least. I mean, when I prayed to God about it I didn't feel better at all, and only when I comiserated with another person about these people I felt better. She was able to complain to me about the things and people that ticked her off, too. Knowing that she struggles with certain things, and in some cases the same people, helps me to not feel so alone and it lessens the pain. And as I said, it doesn't bother me anymore. I wouldn't have known that she agreed with me about how the other person acted towards me unless I had gossipped about him to her. Knowing that she thinks I'm right and he's wrong, really helps.

What do you all think?


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DLW
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   Posted 10/16/2003 6:47 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Releasing anger at others is what Tae-kwon-do is for. I have a stuffed toy tigress next to my computer that I have disembowled. The point is that, unlike with gossip, nobody gets hurt, unless you punch or kick wrong then you can get hurt a lot.

dlwBandit


Niebuhr thought that sustained moral energy in politics depended on religion's power to mobilize reason along with self-transcending love. The prophetic tradition, meanwhile, gave Jews and Christians some protection against the temptation to identify their social causes with God's will. Lincoln's second inaugural address expressed the prophetic insight, "The almighty has His own purposes."

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Tigress
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   Posted 10/16/2003 6:57 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Kisses


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DLW
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   Posted 10/16/2003 7:12 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
You might also want to try releasing anger by Jay-walking on busy streets with lots of traffic.

dlw


Niebuhr thought that sustained moral energy in politics depended on religion's power to mobilize reason along with self-transcending love. The prophetic tradition, meanwhile, gave Jews and Christians some protection against the temptation to identify their social causes with God's will. Lincoln's second inaugural address expressed the prophetic insight, "The almighty has His own purposes."

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Tigress
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   Posted 10/16/2003 7:33 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
quote:
Originally posted by DLW

You might also want to try releasing anger by Jay-walking on busy streets with lots of traffic.

dlw



Hmmm...it sounds like you're trying to release your anger.


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DLW
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   Posted 10/16/2003 8:14 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
No, I'm just being helpful...
dlw


Niebuhr thought that sustained moral energy in politics depended on religion's power to mobilize reason along with self-transcending love. The prophetic tradition, meanwhile, gave Jews and Christians some protection against the temptation to identify their social causes with God's will. Lincoln's second inaugural address expressed the prophetic insight, "The almighty has His own purposes."

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Tigress
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   Posted 10/16/2003 8:34 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
quote:
Originally posted by DLW

No, I'm just being helpful...
dlw



Just being helpful, my a**!

Why don't you go and give your class a pop quiz or something to vent your anger!?Evil Tongue


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DLW
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   Posted 10/16/2003 8:46 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
No, my cup overfloweth since I am on the verge of giving a tough midterm to my students.

They only had 8 pages of potential questions to study from, but they will get to form cheat sheets of two pages, both-sides, hand-written.

We will see if they've learned anything so far...

dlw

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Tigress
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   Posted 10/16/2003 10:43 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Okay, now that DLW has sufficiently vented his frustrations does anyone else wanna take a stab at this topic?

Anyone?.....

Anyone?.....

Bueller?.....


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DLW
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   Posted 10/16/2003 12:20 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
quote:
Originally posted by Tigress

Okay, now that DLW has sufficiently vented his frustrations does anyone else wanna take a stab at this topic?

Anyone?.....

Anyone?.....

Bueller?.....



They're too busy gossiping about your inanities...
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   Posted 10/16/2003 1:48 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Sam and Diane Black Eye



inside you the time moves and she don't fade
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   Posted 10/16/2003 8:55 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hi Tigress: Great question. And GREAT ISSUE. Sins of the mouth are much more frequently mentioned, much more sternly mentioned, and more clearly mentioned, than many of the "favorite sins" Christians get ruffled over (and that heat up discussion boards Bandit). If you'd titled your thread HOMOSEXUALITY, it wouldn't just be DLW responding to you, guaranteed!Blush


Here's how I process the issue.

My most fundamental task in life, given by God, is to love all people at all times no ifs, ands or buts.

Love is ascribing to people the worth God ascribes to people (CALVARY!).

If my words or deeds detract worth from another (slander, lower another's perception of them, etc.) I am not ascribing worth.

When conflicts arise, we must seek resolution. The question is, how do we do this in a way that ascribes worth to them?

Talking to others does so IF a) my motive is honestly to resolve the conflict and b) THEY can be part of the resolution. Otherwise, I conclude that I must keep silent.

Part of a person being part of a "resolution" is if they can help me get clear on my thinking, and my motives. "Processing" with a close confidant, when done with this motive, is helpful.

The motto: If a person isn't part of the solution, don't make them part of the problem.


Hope this helps.

Doc


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   Posted 10/17/2003 3:26 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Good stuff Doc... Very helpful. I agree that there is a diffetrence between gossiping and clarifying your position by discussing the situation with someone who could offer helpful insight.

Ross


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Tigress
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   Posted 10/17/2003 5:29 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
quote:
Originally posted by GregBoyd

Hi Tigress: Great question. And GREAT ISSUE. Sins of the mouth are much more frequently mentioned, much more sternly mentioned, and more clearly mentioned, than many of the "favorite sins" Christians get ruffled over (and that heat up discussion boards Bandit). If you'd titled your thread HOMOSEXUALITY, it wouldn't just be DLW responding to you, guaranteed!Blush


Here's how I process the issue.

My most fundamental task in life, given by God, is to love all people at all times no ifs, ands or buts.

Love is ascribing to people the worth God ascribes to people (CALVARY!).

If my words or deeds detract worth from another (slander, lower another's perception of them, etc.) I am not ascribing worth.

When conflicts arise, we must seek resolution. The question is, how do we do this in a way that ascribes worth to them?

Talking to others does so IF a) my motive is honestly to resolve the conflict and b) THEY can be part of the resolution. Otherwise, I conclude that I must keep silent.

Part of a person being part of a "resolution" is if they can help me get clear on my thinking, and my motives. "Processing" with a close confidant, when done with this motive, is helpful.

The motto: If a person isn't part of the solution, don't make them part of the problem.


Hope this helps.

Doc



Yeah, but this doesn't answer my question about the whole psychological aspect of it. I mean, I was stewing over the incident for 3 days, until I gossipped about it to my coworker, and then it didn't bother me anymore. Gossipping essentially "healed" my bad feelings and troubled thoughts. If I hadn't done that, I would probably still be suffering with those things right now. It doesn't seem fair that I'm not allowed to do whatever it takes to stop feeling bad.


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