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|  BJS Registered Member
 Date Joined Dec 2001 Total Posts : 587 | Posted 5/3/2002 4:56 AM (GMT -6) |   | A friend of mine who I graduated from college with works on Capitol Hill and we dialogue on a variety of topics, including on rare occasions the topic of Christianity. When asked what his main problem with Christianity was, he responded in his typically cynical way:
quote: Indian elephants will shoot out of my ass before I accept the notion that God created man only to damn 4/5ths of humanity to everlasting damnation for failing to believe that a cat named Jesus of Nazareth was born of a virgin to save mankind from sin.
I would appreciate prayer and even advice as I continue my conversation with him. He is an extremely intelligent guy with a good heart who just needs to know that God is fair.
Brett
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 |  Seymour Registered Member
 Date Joined Jan 2002 Total Posts : 105 | Posted 5/3/2002 9:21 PM (GMT -6) |   | Just take your freind aside and show him the ratio between a camel and the eye of a needle, and then for effect compare it to the ratio between an Indian elephant and his ass (sorry) hole, and then tell him to get prepaired for the biggest salvation eneima he's ever had.
Owch, the whole refiners fire imagry ain't half as painful as that one.
Some folks dance cool, all angels and swaying hips, Sensual as all get out and in. Me, I'm a hick, and I dance like one, I just kinda jump around and grin. --Greg Brown | | Back to Top | | |
 |  BJS Registered Member
 Date Joined Dec 2001 Total Posts : 587 | Posted 5/4/2002 6:56 AM (GMT -6) |   | You've got me laughing out loud, Seymour. That kind of analogy might be just what this guy would appreciate. He's pretty straightforward and bottomline-oriented. Thanks for the input. 
Brett
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 |  PotOnWheel Registered Member

Date Joined Jul 2001 Total Posts : 9890 | Posted 5/4/2002 7:47 AM (GMT -6) |   | | Bret, what is his core objection? Or are there two? | | Back to Top | | |
 |  Seymour Registered Member
 Date Joined Jan 2002 Total Posts : 105 | Posted 5/4/2002 2:22 PM (GMT -6) |   | Darling BJS, i'm so glad that you liked that one. i was a bit worried that i had just crossed a line and everyone whould be really offended and think it was too gross. But then again, to bring up another salvation story, Think about what Good ol' Nicodemous (sp?) must have been imagining when Jesus told him to be born again! A dear fread of mine who has a talent for drawing drew a little picture for me of what Nicodemous must have been thinking of, it involves him trying to crawl back inside his mother, who is about 60 years old. It seems that no matter how you look at it salvation involves fitting living beings way way too large into various oriphises of the body.
okay now maybe i've crossed the line.
Some folks dance cool, all angels and swaying hips, Sensual as all get out and in. Me, I'm a hick, and I dance like one, I just kinda jump around and grin. --Greg Brown | | Back to Top | | |
 |  beachgirl Registered Member
 Date Joined Feb 2002 Total Posts : 26 | Posted 5/6/2002 3:25 AM (GMT -6) |   | BJS: I can relate to the situation you are in with your friend. I have been carrying on conversations with a "skeptic" who has a similar beef with Christianity. He is very intelligent and needs logical explanations to some of the mysteries of God and the Christian faith. I know God is pursuing my friend -- God has made that pretty clear to me (even if it's not clear to my friend). Prayer is effective! Have hope and take courage!
"Relying on God has to begin all over again every day as if nothing had yet been done..." C.S. Lewis
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