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MsMe
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| Posted 2/20/2004 5:17 PM (GMT -6) |   | Hi, I'm new here. I found this site by doing a google search and entering the phrase "I did not ask to be born."
As a brief background, I am not a Christian, I believe in God, that Jesus died for our sins, and that we need to accept Him as our Lord and Saviour, and that if we choose to run from Him now we will be separated from him later in hell.
I suppose that I cannot argue with God because he created me and gave me the ability to reason/argue in the first place. But that somehow does not keep me from arguing.
I understand that I have a choice to make, but am upset that I am here on earth in the first place and have now got to make a choice. If I had any say in the matter, I would prefer to never have been born. Why therefore should I now have to make a choice? I understand that I am a sinner and that God is a just God, and that he provided a way, but this still does not explain to me why I have to make that choice since I never asked to be born and would prefer to not have been born.
Thanks.
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Laika
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| Posted 2/20/2004 6:14 PM (GMT -6) | | quote:
Originally posted by MsMe
Hi, I'm new here. I found this site by doing a google search and entering the phrase "I did not ask to be born."
As a brief background, I am not a Christian, I believe in God, that Jesus died for our sins, and that we need to accept Him as our Lord and Saviour, and that if we choose to run from Him now we will be separated from him later in hell.
I suppose that I cannot argue with God because he created me and gave me the ability to reason/argue in the first place. But that somehow does not keep me from arguing.
I understand that I have a choice to make, but am upset that I am here on earth in the first place and have now got to make a choice. If I had any say in the matter, I would prefer to never have been born. Why therefore should I now have to make a choice? I understand that I am a sinner and that God is a just God, and that he provided a way, but this still does not explain to me why I have to make that choice since I never asked to be born and would prefer to not have been born.
Thanks.
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quest for truth
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| Posted 2/21/2004 5:59 AM (GMT -6) | | MsMequote:
I never asked to be born and would prefer to not have been born
True, none of us asked to be born. In fact, life can be a living hell. Also true that God doesn't take away pain or hurt in our lives and yet God gives us commands (especially the command to love which can be so difficult)! It could appear that God expects more from us than God gives to us.
BUT... God made YOU for a purpose and that purpose is to choose whether you will become his bride or not. God desires more than anything that you will choose to follow but does NOT make you do so. God is a respecter of persons. Jesus loves you so much that he is walking beside you, ever calling your name to follow him. He stands at your hearts door and knocks. He stays there like a lover persistent to win the heart of his true love.
Due to freewill life is full of choices and sometimes those choices bring about great pain BUT God is there with us through EVERY event we encounter and is fighting on our behalf when the enemy strikes an attack. You are so COMPLETELY loved by the creator of the universe that he will never give up pursuing your love. God is the father of the prodigal son. God is the shepherd looking for the one lost lamb. You were created because God is head over heels in love with you!
I don't know if this helped but I wanted to throw in my two cents.
Blessings and love to you! Thank you.
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Matthew Timothy Short
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| Posted 2/22/2004 2:01 AM (GMT -6) | | Jer 20:14-18
Cursed be the day in which I was born!
Let the day not be blessed in which my mother bore me!
Let the man be cursed
Who brought news to my father, saying,
"A male child has been born to you!"
Making him very glad.
And let that man be like the cities
Which the Lord overthrew, and did not relent;
Let him hear the cry in the morning
And the shouting at noon,
Because he did not kill me from the womb,
That my mother might have been my grave,
And her womb always enlarged with me.
Why did I come forth from the womb to see labor and sorrow,
That my days should be consumed with shame?
Jhn 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
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feelinahole
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| Posted 2/22/2004 10:33 AM (GMT -6) | | | We are creatures made by a creator. The creator makes the rules, not us. Like it or not, thems the rules. | | Back to Top | | |
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selah
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Total Posts : 1210
| Posted 2/23/2004 12:06 AM (GMT -6) | | quote:
Originally posted by MsMe
Hi
As a brief background, I am not a Christian, I believe in God, that Jesus died for our sins, and that we need to accept Him as our Lord and Saviour, and that if we choose to run from Him now we will be separated from him later in hell.
I suppose that I cannot argue with God because he created me and gave me the ability to reason/argue in the first place. But that somehow does not keep me from arguing.
I understand that I have a choice to make, but am upset that I am here on earth in the first place and have now got to make a choice. If I had any say in the matter, I would prefer to never have been born. Why therefore should I now have to make a choice? I understand that I am a sinner and that God is a just God, and that he provided a way, but this still does not explain to me why I have to make that choice since I never asked to be born and would prefer to not have been born.
Thanks.
Dear MsMe,
Hello, and welcome to the board!
A couple thoughts...
First, I realize you are thinking about God (the Creator) creating you and then leaving you here to make this choice. But, thing is, your parents actually made some choices here too. They decided to have you. They did the act to bring you about. God is the one who worked in that to make you in His image - intricate and beautiful. In my view, God is responsible for gifting you and working in you now to call you back to Himself. See, I think God realizes it's no party down here. Jesus came (and was born in a stinky manger!) to experience this world Himself. He relates to us out of that experience. He's no longer just this huge thing in the sky... ya know? He truly gets it! I think He wants to improve the quality of life we have in this temporal world through our relationship with Him (read Jesus' prayer in John 17:20-26!). He wants to fill us with a love we can't get anywhere else. That's why we have to choose. He won't force Himself on us. He is a true gentle-man. And, lemme tell ya, walking with Him through the muck down here sure transforms the way you see things. He is faithful and it's worth it.
love,
selah
"When we acknowledge that all of life is sacred and that each act is an act of choice and therefore sacred, then life is a sacred dance lived consciously each moment. When we live at this level, we participate in the creation of a better world."
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quest for truth
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Total Posts : 479
| Posted 2/24/2004 6:55 AM (GMT -6) | | Dear MsMe:
I am interested to hear more from you. I am so glad you found this site when you did the google search. Maybe (just maybe) God was leading you this direction. Have you been able to read through some of the threads on this site? I personally would like to hear more from you. I hope you don't go away.
Thank you.
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