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Lifelong liberal, first amendment champion Nat Hentoff, who was in the forefront of protests against the Vietnam War, said Wednesday that many of today's Iraq war protests are being organized by "old line communists."

"Some of the main marches have been organized by people in the shadows, who support North Korea [and] who think China was right in the massacre at Tiananmen Square," the Village Voice columnist told WOR radio's Bob Grant.

Then Hentoff invoked the "C" word that mainstream reporters dare not speak. "[They] are old line, invincible - you know the term invincible ignorance - in terms of communism."

The left-wing writer noted also that some of the Iraq war protests have a decidedly anti-Israel flavor, telling Grant, "They wouldn't let Rabbi Lerner speak at one of their demonstrations because there are a lot of pro-Palestinians speaking at these demonstrations."

He went on to complain, "Why some of this didn't come out by some people who know the difference and don't agree with it - it besmirches much of the peace movement to have these people organizing it."

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This article

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=29524

is linked here for those who wish to see who has hijacked the “peace” movement. Careful, lots of truth and facts involved here, may be mind numbing for those who let their feelings guide their lives.


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Edited by - SeanG on 04/03/2003 12:48:00 PM

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BBB, I am a pre-triber, and proud of it, am I whacked?

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Yes.

Brandon
"Mommy, I know now that the terms, 'I'll knock yo' teeth down yo' throat!' meant you'd love me in the special way you do everyday of my life."--Darwin Hobbs
www.darwinhobbs.com

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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,5944-631671,00.html

ILL-FEELING between Britain and France over the invasion of Iraq has plumbed new depths with the desecration of that most sacred of memorials, a war cemetery.

The defilement of Commonwealth war graves in northern France coincided with a poll for The Times which found that 54 per cent of Britons no longer regarded France as a close ally because of its opposition to the war.

Relations will be further rent by a second poll, in Le Monde, showing that only a third of the French felt that they were on the same side as the Americans and British, and that another third desired outright Iraqi victory over “les anglo-saxons”.

Eleven thousand Allied soldiers lie buried in well-tended peace at Etaples, on the Channel coast near Le Touquet, victims of the struggle by Anglo-Saxons to liberate the French from the German invaders during the First World War.

Last week the obelisk raised in their memory was defiled by red-painted insults such as “Rosbeefs go home”; “May Saddam prevail and spill your blood”; and, in a reference to the long-dead casualties beneath the manicured turf, “They are soiling our land”.

Local gendarmerie have launched an inquiry, but have so far found no clues. They say there had been no significant demonstrations against the war in that area of France.

The graffiti have been scrubbed off, but the incident has provoked outrage among British politicians, war graves staff and the few remaining relatives of those buried at Etaples. French politicians have joined the condemnation.

Bruce George, Labour chairman of the Commons Defence Committee, said: “Remembering what sacrifice these men made for the liberation of France, I cannot believe any mature, sane person would be so stupid as that.”

David Uffold, 63, a Shropshire farmer, is the only surviving relative of Rifleman Frederick Uffold of the London Regiment, who is buried at Etaples. “I find it sickening that anyone would vandalise the cemetery,” he said. “It is the last place they should be protesting about Iraq. These fellows were drafted in to fight for France. I can’t see any connection between the men buried at Etaples and the war in Iraq.”

Peter Francis, of the Commonwealth War Graves Commission, said he was disgusted that a place remembering those who died defending freedom in world wars long ago should be dragged into a current political debate.

French politicians did their best to portray the desecration as an isolated act, but it nonetheless underlined anti-American and anti-British emotions running through France over what is seen there as a bungled invasion rapidly turning into a humanitarian disaster.

President Chirac’s spokesman said: “We are indignant and shocked by the desecration of the graves of soldiers who fought for our liberty.” Jean-Pierre Raffarin, the Prime Minister, said: “The Americans are not the enemy; just because we are against this war, it does not mean that we want the victory of dictatorship over democracy.”

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Remember, in a very recent pole, one out of three Frenchies want Saddam Hussein to beat the American troops over there!

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How soBBB?

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With a light touch, D`Souza shows that conservatism needn`t be stodgy or defensive, even though it is based on preserving the status quo. To the contrary, when a conservative has to expose basic liberal assumptions to scrutiny, he or she must become a kind of imaginative, fun-loving, forward-looking guerrilla--philosophically conservative but temperamentally radical.

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Oh, BBB, I posted a little something special to kick off a discussion about such things in Theological Q&A, FYI.

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I'll check it. But in the mean time...

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As for other views, I have studied them in-depth, and I have always come back to the Lindsey’s and Tim Lahay’s.

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If I'm correct, you are saying that you studied the "other" eschatologies meaning mid-trib, post-trib, pre-wrath and the Wrath of Khan but you settled on Lindsey and LaHaye?

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I believe that Jesus second coming has more prophesies dealing with that time than his first coming. Making this an important study for any Christian.

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Albeit a secondary issue to our salvation, it seems important enough for God to include it within the realm of scripture. And to waiver on it is to miss out on a portion of our Christian understanding relating to His promise to return, which is the most awesomest promise ever!

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Right. I don't have a problem with the study of eschatology. Its in scripture. I have a problem lading it with what we see happening in the world. Premillennialism is a spawning ground for such "Christian crystal ball gazing" or "newspaper eschatology." All such premillennial views (pre, mid, or post trib) do this. The pre-trib view is but one minute view WITHIN the premillennial view among all the millennial views out there, i.e. postmillennialism, dispensationalism, historic premillennialism and amillennialism.

It is one thing to hold to a particular eschatological view, but please don't load it with ever changing current events. Ugh...




Brandon
"Mommy, I know now that the terms, 'I'll knock yo' teeth down yo' throat!' meant you'd love me in the special way you do everyday of my life."--Darwin Hobbs
www.darwinhobbs.com

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...silence is the defining ring of the day.

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The left was predicting a million dead in Afghanistan Honorman! (Hey, that rhymed.) Noam Chompsky was one, as well as many of your liberal senators and anti-Bush people. The U.N. predicted 500,000 thousand dead in Iraq, many of which would be U.S. soldiers. Nancy Pelosi just a day or three ago said thousands upon thousands of dead U.S. soldiers.

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