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boljer
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Posted 2/13/2002 5:03 AM (GMT -6)

How do you tell if a problem is spritually inflicted or just a mixture of psychological, emotional, issues that have built up over time? If the human is made up of a spirit, body and soul,,don't all three interact with eachother or are there disctinct problems that may seem to be spiritual yet are actaully something else??

Jered P. Boley

trosie
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Posted 2/13/2002 8:19 PM (GMT -6)

Hi Jered:
Thank God for the Holy Spirit to give us discernment!

quote:
? If the human is made up of a spirit, body and soul,,don't all three interact with eachother or are there disctinct problems that may seem to be spiritual yet are actaully something else??

God tells us to take every thought captive to Christ. We are to decide upon the truth through being the masters over our minds. There is this part of us called the "I" of the soul which is to govern all of our thoughts and feelings. This part resides in our spirit, and it is the part that communicates with God. The "I" is to govern our soul (neuronets - emotions and thoughts) and to govern our body (the flesh)

Again, I say thank God for the gift of discernment because sometimes it is hard to sifer between what is in our control (fleshly influence) and what we need to fast and pray over (demonic activity).

I hope this makes sense because I am writing this at a late hour and I am tired, however I found your questions so intriguing that I wanted to give a response. Hey, if you are interested there is a section on the Christus Victor homepage that discusses TNT and this might give you some insights to your questions.

Blessings to you,
trosie

"Christians who excuse their own mediocrity with pious rationalizations seem guilty of not understanding the extent of God's call on their life." Author Unknown

boljer
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Posted 2/14/2002 9:06 AM (GMT -6)

Thanks for the input. Some of the thouhgts that race through my mind sometimes are pretty scarry if I actually stop and think about what I'm thinking about...I think sometimes they're what Paul refers to firey darts!!!HOW DO YOU TAKE EVERY THOUGHT CAPTIVE???I UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT BUT LACK APPLICATION!!!!!!!

Thanks again...

Jered P. Boley

trosie
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Posted 2/15/2002 12:00 AM (GMT -6)

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HOW DO YOU TAKE EVERY THOUGHT CAPTIVE???I UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT BUT LACK APPLICATION!!!!!!!

Ah, Jered, I feel baited because this is something I recently have learned to apply for myself AND IT WORKS! I appreciate this opportunity to share some of the insights I have acquired through the TNT training. I am not sure how familiar you are with NLP?

The first step in taking your thoughts captive to Christ is to have your spirit in alignment with God's truths. People are dispositioned with a set of beliefs that were predominantly installed at a young age. We robopathecally respond to our environment based on these beliefs unless we stop and think about our beliefs. This is where the challenge begins because we first need to become aware of our own beliefs before we are able to lead our thoughts captive to Christ.

Our thought process looks like this:
Beliefs --> Thoughts --> Feelings --> Actions

What I have learned through the TNT training is that we need to install some type of "pattern interrupt" which will help us to stop our robopathic thinking so that we can challenge the beliefs and lead the thoughts to the truth. (A pattern interrupt is an internal picture or word that reminds us to STOP when we begin a thought process that is not leading to a godly outcome.)

So, when a thought comes to your mind as you referred to as being pretty scary, you can get out from that by picturing or hearing the word "STOP!" This will give you the opportunity to challenge the scary thought with what is true. This will enable you to take your thoughts captive to Christ.

When I begin a negative thought I have conditioned myself to see a T in the road which gives me the opportunity to stop for a moment, challenge the negative thinking with what is true, and then consider moving toward the truth and away from the lie. This is how we can lead our thoughts captive to Christ.

Does this help?
trosie

boljer
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Posted 2/15/2002 4:08 AM (GMT -6)

Thanks for the input. Yes, that does help! So as we become aware of the thouhgts that are coming to our minds, we need to be continually asking ourselves,"does this thought align itself with the truth of God's word, if it does not, then we can choose (by the power of the holy ghost) to stop thinking about it and choose to think things that are true...To do this,,it would seem to me that we need to know the Word well enough to know what is of God and what is not..Also we need to monitor carefully what we allow into our minds(TV MOvies, magazines, conversations, etc...) I think that helps.....Thanks again!!!

Jered P. Boley

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