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|  Wislawa Registered Member
 Date Joined Jun 2001 Total Posts : 83 | Posted 8/18/2001 11:09 AM (GMT -6) |   | 
POW, as a fellow artist, I need you to get my back on this one.
Doc said:
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I'm supposed to be working on The Myth of the Blueprint. I've been pouring over the ancient Stoics, Middle Platonists, Aristotelians etc... to test my hypothesis that the "blueprint" worldview was incorporated into Christianity from misconstrued pagan philosophy (and I must say so far my thesis is being confirmed splendidly).
Hey doc, since you’re thinking about publishing your three’s book with a secular company maybe you’ll get some better layout and cover designs then you’ve gotten with IVP.
IVP is a GREAT publisher; they do tons of great stuff. BUT they are the all time worst when it comes to cover designs and layout. What’s the deal with that ugly black bar they put at the top of every page? And what’s with the swollen fonts they choose? Personally I blame it on James Sire the editor in chief of IVP. The guy is as ignorant about art as a certain mayor of New York I know (or the governor of a certain state I know of who said “If I can do it, it an’t art.”) Sire lets his ignorance show in the all time worst book I’ve ever be forced to read in a class called “The Universe Next Door” (which also has really bad cover design). Check out the laughable comments he makes about what is and is not art. My commentary in blue.
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Art is nothing if not formal, that is, endowed with structure by the artist. [BTW this is absolutely not true. Formalism is one, among many, ways of understanding what art is. Formalism has; however, failed to give an adequate account of objects which fall outside the extension of the term ‘formal’ but no one can deny that they fall within the extension of the term ‘artwork’.] But structure itself implies meaning. [No it doesn’t. If the universe is here by random means alone it has no meaning, BUT who can deny that randomness creates structure?] So to the extent that an art work has structure, it has meaning and thus it is not nihilistic. [Sire needs a crash course in aesthetics here. Duchamp, Arp, and others were some of the first to deal with the idea of randomness and chance in their work and whatever meaning their works have it is not to be located in their structure. Meaning IS essential to a work of art and that meaning must be embodied in some why in materials but the structure of those materials only plays a role in SOME not all works of art.] Even Beckett’s Breath has structure. A junk yard, the garbage in a trash heap, a pile of rocks just blasted from a quarry have no structure. [Is this even true? If Beckett’s Breath has structure certainly these do as well.] They are not art. [I can’t tell you how many artworks I’ve seen that have been nothing more than ‘a junk yard, the garbage in a trash heap, a pile of rocks just blasted from a quarry.’ If these works are not indeed art then what are they? Sire fails to understand that ANYTHING can be a work of art, even the performance of blasting rocks from a quarry.]
“The Universe Next Door” IVP page 92
later on he makes equally laughable suggestions that the madness of Nietzsche and the suicide of Hemmingway had to do with their unchristian world-views. Never mind that Nietzsche’s father also went mad a week before his death, never mind that Hemmingway was having problems coming up with another book or that his daughter two suffered from a genetic form of depression. And above all don’t read Qoheleth, because if you do you may decide that even canonical authors can be suicidal!
With a guy like this in charge it's no wonder their layout is so sinful!
I have to admit I was impressed to see that they used an inset from “The Garden of Earthly Delights” for the cover of “Satan and the Problem of Evil” (which by the way, comes in a triptych itself. More 3’s!). But they could have made it much better by expanding the image beyond just an inset and overlaying the text in something other than that ugly black and red grid thing they’ve got going.
All this is to say that when it comes to “The Myth of the Blueprint” I’ve got a great idea for a cover design although I’m sure IVP doesn’t care enough about their authors to let them have any say-so in the matter. If I recall Dan Taylor had made up his own cover once and they told him that they won’t try to write his books if he doesn’t try to do the job of their ‘expert’ layout people. They turned around and gave him an ugly book.
-Wislawa
for love is strong as death, passion fierce as the grave. Its flashes are flashes of fire, a raging flame [shalhevet-Yah = the very fire of Yah(weh)].
Canticles 8:6
Edited by - Wislawa on 08/18/2001 4:13:27 PM | | Back to Top | | |
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