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selah
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| Posted 9/9/2002 2:18 AM (GMT -6) |   | A friend sent this weird picture to me. Check it out and let me know what you think. Here's the story: Apparently the owners of this house have been seeing images and hearing voices for quite a while. They did some research and found that a lady once lived in the house who lost her husband during the Civil War. Legend says she used to sit at the table and look across the fields in anticipation of her loved one returning home. He never came so they say she still waits. They caught this photo of what they claim to be her. (Don't look if you think you think you'll get scared!) It's a little spooky once you find the ghost in the picture. It took me a few seconds to find it, but when you do, it just stands out. Like one of those optical illusion posters. To save you some time, concentrate around the table. Best not to focus too much on one spot.
Look around the table and toward the window.
Click on the link below for the picture. Best to enlarge. For an added touch turn up the volume, it's faint, but the low murmur you hear was what got the photographer's attention first.
Click here: http://home.attbi.com/~n9ivo/whatswrong.swf
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brandi
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| Posted 9/9/2002 5:19 AM (GMT -6) | | What/who do you think ghosts are? Do you think they are really people who are hanging around the world after death or do you think they are demons trying to leer people into the world of the occult?
The reason I ask is because I know of a family who are professed atheist (very much so) yet they claim they have ghosts that are following them wherever they live. They say that they can feel this presence in their home. The daughter has felt something touch her hair several times. They hear noises, like footsteps walking, when no one is in the house but them. They have books fly off the shelves.... They appear to be intrigued and they almost seem proud of the fact that they have ghosts living in their home. I asked them how they can believe in an afterlife of ghosts but not believe in a God. They got perfectly furious and defensive at my question.
My question for you is do you believe in ghosts? If so, what do you think they are? Do you think this is one more tactic Satan uses to try and bait people?
Thanks,
~Brandi~
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BJS
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| Posted 9/9/2002 5:27 AM (GMT -6) | | Nice one. Almost jumped out of my chair. 
Brett
"Siste viator et memento mori."
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brandi
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| Posted 9/9/2002 5:43 AM (GMT -6) | | I DID jump out of my chair (along with my dogs jumping up) Seriously though, since the topic has been brought up, what do you guys think of ghosts?
~Brandi~
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churchmouse522
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| Posted 9/9/2002 5:45 PM (GMT -6) | | Hey Selah,
Are you going to pay for my new undies I had to buy after I soiled myself?
 Mouse
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selah
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| Posted 9/10/2002 1:47 AM (GMT -6) | | hehehe 
Life rules when you're a high visual! Imagining the response from the people I don't know was fun, but the people I DO know--that was choice!
Mouse, just go ahead and put a bill in my folder--it was worth every dime
Love ya,
selah
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brandi
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| Posted 9/10/2002 4:08 AM (GMT -6) | | No one has answered the questions I brought up 
Here's a part that's interesing from what Selah said
quote:
...the low murmur you hear was what got the photographer's attention first.
How can one "see" a low murmur?
I will patiently await a reply to my questions 
~Brandi~
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BJS
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| Posted 9/10/2002 4:57 AM (GMT -6) | | quote:
Hey Selah,
Are you going to pay for my new undies I had to buy after I soiled myself?
Mouse
Three words: Too Much Information. . .
Brett
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selah
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| Posted 9/10/2002 9:06 AM (GMT -6) | | Sorry Brandi,
No time for deep thoughts. Maybe as we get closer to
Halloween...
As for your other question: I think the part about
"getting the photographer's attention" was referring
to him first looking toward the origin of noise before
taking the picture. (eg. behind him, beside him, in front
of him - OR HER)etc.
Anyway, it gets you to TURN IT UP!
Brett: No, not too much information for me. That was
the EXACT amount of information I needed 
Gotta run,
selah
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churchmouse522
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brandi
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| Posted 9/11/2002 9:41 AM (GMT -6) | | Selah quote:
No time for deep thoughts. Maybe as we get closer to
Halloween...
I understand having a busy life! Perhaps, also, this is too "silly" or "ignorant" of a question for THIS particular web site?! I will seek my answer elsewhere since I am trying to witness right now to this family -- I don't want to wait until Halloween to tell ghost stories to one another...
I am trying to understand what's going on for them... I already know what I believe but maybe there are other ways to approach this phenomena. Perhaps if I get a little more knowledge under my belt in this area I will be able to build rapport and then be able to share Christ? Anyway, I will seek feedback on another site. Thanks for your honesty, Selah!
~Brandi~
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Springs
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| Posted 9/11/2002 11:34 AM (GMT -6) | | Brandi,
I think this is one of those areas like Bigfoot or the aliens, a lot of people don't believe in ghosts. Personally I think ghosts are demons. (everybody is shocked I know)
Demons seems to feed off of misfortune and pain. They enjoy wickedness and encourage it. Perhaps by parading as one of their victims they are bragging about their accomplishments. God says we live once, so I don't think he allows anyone to hang around.
I have done a few house blessings which resulted in the 'ghosts' not being seen anymore. I talked to a couple who had moved into a house with a ghost. He thought it was cool. He liked to tell people what it did. She thought is was creepy. She said the teenagers of the household had taken a turn for the worse since the move. She believed it was a bad influence and felt it changed the atmosphere to argumentative.
Just as being in God's presense can bring a feeling of overwhelming peace, a demon's presence can bring dis'ease, temptation, fear, etc.
I don't think it is safe or wise to tolerate the presence of evil in our homes. It would be interesting to hear if they have experienced any pervasive 'atmospheres'.
I have lots of 'ghost stories' - don't tell DAD.
Springs
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brandi
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| Posted 9/12/2002 3:47 AM (GMT -6) | | Dear Springs:
Thank you for your response. I agree with you and I too believe that ghosts are demons. The problem I am experiencing, however, is that since the members of this family are firm atheist they do not see the ghosts as evil. They see them as "fun" in a sort of way. I want them to see the truth but this is impossible coming from their disbelief in "good" and "evil" beings.
I struggle with knowing what to say and how to respond when they bring this topic up. When I suggested the possibility for them to consider that there is a God, since they already believe that there is something beyond this life (ghosts), they got angry and defensive. Perhaps I will not be able to witness to them? Perhaps someone later down the road will have that opportunity? Perhaps my job is to PRAY that they will come to see the Way, the Truth, and the Life someday? I struggle in knowing that they are entertaining something that is evil in their home while at the same time knowing that they don't have a clue about this presence as being evil.
I agree with you that many people don't believe in ghosts and equate this on the same level as aliens or Bigfoot. My purpose in bringing this "far out there topic" up was, since Selah opened the topic up about ghosts, I wanted to get feedback in the hope that I could learn how other people interpret ghosts. I thought maybe I could approach the topic with this family from a different angle other than telling them that I believe these beings are demons since they are not open to God nor to demons at the time. As I said, perhaps I am simply called to pray for them.
Thanks so much for responding, Springs!
~Brandi~
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Springs
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| Posted 9/12/2002 6:31 PM (GMT -6) | | You are so welcome Brandi,
I think you are right, sometimes all we can do is pray. And in this situation it's probably the best thing you can do. I understand your concern, and frustration. But you are a witness even when you don't speak. And your love empowers your prayer.
Sometimes, when I'm in a situation where the person I'm talking to might become defensive if I try to tell them something 'religious' I will express myself by way of a story, or relay a conversation I had with someone else to them. It kind of takes them off the hot seat.
Springs
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