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Jim Mottl
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Date Joined Oct 2003
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| Posted 12/2/2004 5:22 AM (GMT -6) |   | I think it is God's will that we are healed, but what kind of healing are we talking about. From the website it would seem that she is talking about an Earthly healing, a temporary healing, ie if someone is healed from a sickness. I think that Jesus cares about us in that we live in a physical world with real bodies...The reason I think he did all of the healing miracles was to get people to believe in Him. Notice that he did not stop John from being beheaded. Why? I know that He cared about that, but He also knew where John would be going, that is, John would have been upgraded to the Kingdom of God in Heaven. Jesus healed a blind man and when Jesus saw the man again He told him that he better quit sinning or something worse would happen to him. Jesus said he raised Lazarus from the dead for the benefit of those around Him so that they would believe. Believe what? Why?
Now even though John was not sick it showed that it was not an urgent concern that John's physical state be preserved. Then you have where Jesus did heal people for the sole reason of people seeing it so they believed, which served a greater purpose than the physical healing itself.
So basically, I think that God wants our souls saved. He is not concerned with preserving our phyical state, although he does care.
Thanks,
Jim | | Back to Top | | |
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1Heart
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Date Joined Feb 2004
Total Posts : 1128
| Posted 12/4/2004 4:45 AM (GMT -6) | | quote:
Originally posted by spenlake
You have done me no wrong; but you know that it was because of a bodily illness that I preached the gospel to you the first time; and that which was a trial to you in my bodily condition you did not despise or loathe, but you received me as an angel of God, as Christ Jesus Himself.
Paul healed others. God kept Paul and even saved him from a venomous snake bite. Paul was sick (not healed) and it was because of his sickness that he preached the gospel to the Galatians. Ultimately, our sickness is sin. This is our incurable disease that He came down from heaven to heal. Unless this healing is accomplished, the temporal healing is insignificant. All those whom Jesus healed while He was on the earth died. All those that He raised from the dead, such as Lazarus, died. If these people were not healed of their incurable disease of sin, the miracles they experienced while living only add to their damnation as they are more accountable.
Sometimes....our physical problems are connected to spiritual ones (sometimes). About two and a half years ago I spent some time with a prayer counsellor, and it culminated in this experience with cataphatic prayer (backtracking) and about a year later I was sitting across from my doctor (after 16 years of having been confirmed with Fibromyalgia) and he was grinning at me from ear to ear, and pronouncing that I was healed! Still am. Forgiveness is a powerful thing, and that is a form of healing. I'm not quick to assess physical problems as spiritual ones, but they sometimes are.
Anyway, neither are God's design, but as we know...He can, but doesn't heal everyone.
Jo-Anne
"Sometimes all we can do is go back to the character of God, and drop anchor there."
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markporter
Fire over Oxford
Date Joined Oct 2003
Total Posts : 263
| Posted 1/13/2005 10:56 AM (GMT -6) | | | haven't read the article, but I certainly believe that it isn't always God's will to heal us on this earth, I think that he has higher purposes than just physical healing, and that allowing illness in some cases can serve a higher purpose in his kingdom or that there are things which get in the way of him healing people | | Back to Top | | |
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a_theist
"Thy will be done."
Date Joined Dec 2002
Total Posts : 286
| Posted 3/23/2005 2:31 PM (GMT -6) | | | the muzicman said: What if not being healed was a part of the working together for good?
Score one for Satan--if she exists!
"Rom 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose."
I think this verse suggests that anything considered bad is really good in that it works for the good, and in turn is good. But I think it is really bad to reach that conclusion. All things means genuine evil as well. I can't believe genuine evil can work for the good--it can only create discord.
"The 'sovereignty' of God is not, I suggest, a very biblical idea, especially if one has a low opinion of the respect of sovereigns for the freedom of their subjects." ~Charles Hartshorne | | Back to Top | | |
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