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honorman
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DLW
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   Posted 1/1/2004 8:29 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
well, I guess celebs do tend to get more volume for their free speech than the rest of us, even if they often may fall short in their understanding of issues.

I prefer more nuanced critiques...

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Niebuhr thought that sustained moral energy in politics depended on religion's power to mobilize reason along with self-transcending love. The prophetic tradition, meanwhile, gave Jews and Christians some protection against the temptation to identify their social causes with God's will. Lincoln's second inaugural address expressed the prophetic insight, "The almighty has His own purposes."

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   Posted 1/2/2004 12:58 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Guess some people never learn from history. As far as I can see the mass murders that were performed in Iraq pretty much parallel what happened in Nazi Germany. Perhaps Willie does not feel that freedom and human life is worth fighting for.

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DLW
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   Posted 1/2/2004 8:22 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I think it was more the way we went about going to war with Iraq and the awarding of the post-war contracts that makes people think it is more about oil than liberation and we haven't improved things for the Iraqi people yet, but our unilateralism has stretched our armed forces....

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Niebuhr thought that sustained moral energy in politics depended on religion's power to mobilize reason along with self-transcending love. The prophetic tradition, meanwhile, gave Jews and Christians some protection against the temptation to identify their social causes with God's will. Lincoln's second inaugural address expressed the prophetic insight, "The almighty has His own purposes."

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honorman
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   Posted 1/2/2004 1:31 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I think celebrities are idiots. It does not speak well for our country that people actually care what people like Nelson, the Dixie Chicks and steve Earle have to say. That said, I think you are very wrong DLW. And so does most of the country.
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   Posted 1/4/2004 9:07 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
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Originally posted by DLW

I think it was more the way we went about going to war with Iraq and the awarding of the post-war contracts that makes people think it is more about oil than liberation and we haven't improved things for the Iraqi people yet, but our unilateralism has stretched our armed forces....

dlw



Most people don't care about how we were led to war and the way we antagonized the rest of the world in doing so?

Sounds like a good poll to me.

dlw


Niebuhr thought that sustained moral energy in politics depended on religion's power to mobilize reason along with self-transcending love. The prophetic tradition, meanwhile, gave Jews and Christians some protection against the temptation to identify their social causes with God's will. Lincoln's second inaugural address expressed the prophetic insight, "The almighty has His own purposes."

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