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 Date Joined Feb 2004 Total Posts : 1128 | Posted 8/2/2005 1:48 AM (GMT -6) |   | DNOTS Survivor said... Ok, I need some serious help. I'll start with a little background…. I am turning 36 next month. This is the age that my mother was when I can first remember thinking she is old. And, my daughter is starting to look at me in the same way....I can see it in her eyes. I don't like that. As a result of this aging thing and the above mentioned medical scare that I experienced in April, I was flung face down into the pit. I've been painfully working my way out, but seem to be stuck. You see, I have a terrible fear of disease and death (as mentioned above). Not because I'm unsure of my eternal destiny (not at all), but because I have this sickly feeling that I am going to get a disease and die at a young age. I don't want to get a disease and die at a young age. I've tried to figure out the source of the fear so I can apply the TNT techniques to get rid of it, but I can't figure out the source. I think it's just that I HATE to be disappointed, and I figure if I assume it will happen, then I'll be less dissappointed when it does happen (notice I said when and not if). In the meantime I'm miserable as I can't get excited about anything in life. YIKES!! It's so irrational, I know.
I think it in part is a lack of trust in God….although, I do trust God to make "all things work together for good".…for Him…..for me, however, it's not good to get a disease and die. I know that sounds awful, but that's how I feel. Also, I wonder if it's a problem with my ability/willingness to accept God's love. I know He loves me, and I have immeasurable worth, but it's never resonated with me. Then, of course, I read that Faith + Hope = Trust….so, perhaps it a lack of hope now….ugh!!
I have spent the last 3 months in the Bible and every book I can find that talks about faith and trust, etc. and I feel only more confused as everyone has their own little spin on things. The books are a wonderful resource and I have found things in all of them that really touches home with me, but in trying to employ all of these suggestions, I feel like I'm losing my mind…..and I'm no closer to accepting God's love, having hope in His promises, grow my faith, develop complete trust in God……and eradicating the fear of disease and death.
I could use a word of encouragement.....
Thanks for your ear.
Tammy
Tammy, I've been very sick, and just got on for a few minutes tonight, and am headed off to bed. It's been quite a weekend on my end. You are young, 10 years younger than me, and I think I'm young! But I know that fear has nothing to do with age--that it can grip all of us reasonably at times, and that it doesn't have to be rational. I hear you feel and my heart goes out to you. There are times when I am gripped, as well, with irrational fear. At times like that it's good to find someone you can trust--someone you can pour your heart out to and know that you are not judged. Is there anyone like that for you?
I'm thinking of you and praying for you.
Jo-Anne (Please keep us in your prayers as well, when you think of us). If God had a wallet, He'd keep your picture in it. | | Back to Top | | |
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 Date Joined Jul 2005 Total Posts : 6 | Posted 8/3/2005 9:13 AM (GMT -6) |   | Yeah, I can talk to my cousin...unfortunatley she lives in Colorado and it quite busy and we're having trouble catching one another.
I just reread my post....boy I was feeling pretty desperate. Right now I'm not feeling quite so severe, but it's always there, like a dark cloud that's always overhead. Satan is trying to suck the life outta me. Heavy sigh.
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 Date Joined Feb 2004 Total Posts : 1128 | Posted 8/4/2005 4:07 PM (GMT -6) |   | DNOTS Survivor said... Yeah, I can talk to my cousin...unfortunatley she lives in Colorado and it quite busy and we're having trouble catching one another.
I just reread my post....boy I was feeling pretty desperate. Right now I'm not feeling quite so severe, but it's always there, like a dark cloud that's always overhead. Satan is trying to suck the life outta me. Heavy sigh.
Thank you so much for your prayer....I really appreciate it.
Tammy, There have been times when I've felt pretty desperate myself, and it's wonderful to have a place to share those thoughts--a safe place where people have been there, where they understand, where you are not judged, and where people offer prayers, experience, insights. The things people have shared with me here have impacted my life. The view of the Father in the open view has affected my life greatly. It's funny you know but I think most people see the Open View as being a view of evil--the Trinitarian Warfare Theodicy, but for me it has transformed my view of the Father--of His character and the way He relates to His creation. It has been the most encouraging theology that I have ever considered, and the most practical. I have come to love the book of Job.
I know what that "dark cloud" feels like, at least I know what my dark cloud feels like and it can feel pretty desperate at times. I'm glad that you are courageous enough to share those feelings here. It has encouraged me.
I'm off to Alaska--North to Alaska--for the weekend, and I'm looking forward to it eagerly. Haines, AK is a beautiful oceanside getaway.
God bless you. I hope you are encouraged or on the road to being encouraged.
Love, Jo-Anne If God had a wallet, He'd keep your picture in it. | | Back to Top | | |
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Date Joined Dec 2004 Total Posts : 690 | Posted 8/4/2005 4:45 PM (GMT -6) |   | |
Dear Tammy,
I'll be keeping you in prayer as well. I hope that may be a boost of encouragement--that we're standing here with you. It's been a while since I've really experienced something severe like DNOTS, but I certainly understand that feeling of a constant and daily dark cloud over my head. One thing that I found helpful (it came out in a poem I wrote a long time ago) was the thing of hoping for hope. Having faith, or belief or trust, that the feeling of hope will return. Sometimes I would go through long bouts of DNOTS in depression and all I could do was just go on the day to day struggle while hiding it from everyone around me. Sometimes just hanging on to the 'simple knowing of God's love' (since I was lacking the feeling) and going on auto-pilot was the thing that helped me get through it. I don't know if sharing this with you helps or not (I hope in some way it does) but I want to let you know that we sympathize and are standing with you in prayer. Please do feel free to share more here if you'd like.
My husband and I are going on vacation next week (to Alaska too! ) but I'll look for your posts when I get back to see how things are going!
Heather
PS- Jo-Anne, we're still praying for you too
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 Date Joined Feb 2004 Total Posts : 1128 | Posted 8/5/2005 2:06 AM (GMT -6) |   | Violin for God said...Dear Tammy, I'll be keeping you in prayer as well. I hope that may be a boost of encouragement--that we're standing here with you. It's been a while since I've really experienced something severe like DNOTS, but I certainly understand that feeling of a constant and daily dark cloud over my head. One thing that I found helpful (it came out in a poem I wrote a long time ago) was the thing of hoping for hope. Having faith, or belief or trust, that the feeling of hope will return. Sometimes I would go through long bouts of DNOTS in depression and all I could do was just go on the day to day struggle while hiding it from everyone around me. Sometimes just hanging on to the 'simple knowing of God's love' (since I was lacking the feeling) and going on auto-pilot was the thing that helped me get through it. I don't know if sharing this with you helps or not (I hope in some way it does) but I want to let you know that we sympathize and are standing with you in prayer. Please do feel free to share more here if you'd like. My husband and I are going on vacation next week (to Alaska too!  ) but I'll look for your posts when I get back to see how things are going! Heather PS- Jo-Anne, we're still praying for you too 
No kidding! We must be neighbours (unless you're flying). We can drive to AK.
Jo-Anne If God had a wallet, He'd keep your picture in it. | | Back to Top | | |
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