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¡Que Payaso!
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   Posted 6/27/2002 10:58 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I'm just now reading through the paper that Sanders presented at the ETS Annual Meeting. In it, he defines presentism as "the view that God has exhaustive knowledge of all the past, present and that part of the future that is definite."

To me, that sounds like a good definition of Open Theism (at least with respect to its view of foreknowledge). Are Open Theism and presentism the same animal? I've encountered the term a number of times while reading through messages on this board, but I never really stopped to find out what ya'll meant by it. Has the discussion become so finely nuanced that we should distinguish different kinds of presentism?

El Payaso

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Edited by - payaso on 06/28/2002 03:58:49 AM
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¡Que Payaso!
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   Posted 6/29/2002 7:37 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
As Tom says when he doesn't get a response,




Payaso

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Electra
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   Posted 6/30/2002 6:05 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Another vocabulary fan!

I’ve never heard anyone other than Sanders refer to the open view as presentism. Where else have you run across this term?

I suppose the movement is young enough that if someone were very persistent, they could change the label of the open view if they came up with something cool and catchy. But personally, I can’t wait for the open view to achieve the status of standardized terminology.

Electra

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Edited by - Electra on 06/30/2002 11:13:26 PM
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   Posted 6/30/2002 9:56 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Presentist: Someone who likes presents...all the time...likes surprises...



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