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JCsites.com
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Posted 7/27/2004 10:16 AM (GMT -6)

Hey gang,

Down here in Atlanta, the open view is not discussed at all. Motly because this is S. Baptist land, but in the community at large it's just not a topic on people's minds.

Just wondering what's going in up in MN land? Has this subject kind of run it's course in the mainstream evangelical community? Is it left only to the acedemics for the most part?

How about John Piper? Has he moved on to other topics, or does that annual BGC conference still hold votes on the open view?

I haven't read about the issue in Christianity Today or any other outlets.

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Archibaldo
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Posted 7/28/2004 11:44 AM (GMT -6)

My Minnesota viewpoint says this. During my tenure at North Central Unversity (A/G school in downtown mpls) i was questioned frequently on my views of open theism as i attended and then interned at Woodland Hills. Last fall, my senior project was on the subject, but less questions were asked by fellow students. The minnesota i saw, and still see, is more intentionally talking about Christians roles in politics, and our responsibility to the poor. I have found this both true at school (i live there for another week) and at the church downtown i currently youth pastor at.

In my view, the buzz has changed. I think that when the election is over, other hot topics will be re-visited, but for now, politics has taken a major role.

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Archy

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Ochuk
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Posted 7/28/2004 1:50 PM (GMT -6)

Since Doc is a popular Christian leader here in the TC, OV Theism is mentioned quiet a bit.

Also, it has caught on in the so-called "emerging church."

Read my blog at ochuk.gizzar.com

edcaina
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Posted 8/6/2004 5:15 AM (GMT -6)

There's a dicussion board here in Manila were the debate still rages (at least on that board). There are at least 20 threads on OV in that forum. In fact, the coordinator of the ministry stated thus, "As for me, my stand would be that if a person believes in the OVT god then he cannot be saved." (http://thebereans.net/forum/index.php?board=4;action=display;threadid=2866;start=0#msg68520)

Tom
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Posted 8/6/2004 5:48 PM (GMT -6)

quote:
Originally posted by edcaina

There's a dicussion board here in Manila were the debate still rages (at least on that board). There are at least 20 threads on OV in that forum. In fact, the coordinator of the ministry stated thus, "As for me, my stand would be that if a person believes in the OVT god then he cannot be saved." (http://thebereans.net/forum/index.php?board=4;action=display;threadid=2866;start=0#msg68520)

I read the thread. Sad. Consigning people to hell because they're open theists. Wild.

Tom

Matthias
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Posted 8/6/2004 8:48 PM (GMT -6)

Ei I came from the board mentioned by Ed Caina here. Sadly some people over there dared to condemn OVT just because some big time Calvinists (specifically monergist theological writers) condemn it as heretical. Funny thing is Ed got consigned as a heretic for standing by his beliefs. I've examined the posts of those responsible for labelling OVT as heretical. Sadly, either those guys are deliberately not reading or understanding the arguments of the OVT camp adequately or they're just comprehension-deficient Eyebrow

. How are things in the US? DO Open Theists get consigned as unsaved in your local churches?

Btw, I learned of OVT from Ed here Bandit2

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IMO, sometimes I realize those who attack OVT fail to consider the Open Theist side's arguments point by point.

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sometimesisquint
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Posted 8/7/2004 2:28 AM (GMT -6)

quote:
Originally posted by Matthias

How are things in the US? DO Open Theists get consigned as unsaved in your local churches?

A few months back I was told my soul was in trouble by an eighteen year-old Calvinist for even hinting at belief in the OV. As I am not a Baptist by nature ( Eyebrow

) I can't speak for their denomination, but in many pentecostal circles, it seems that the issue is glossed over and ignored. They have much larger issues to argue about after all, like whether Bush should be awarded a ticker-tape parade and "non-Catholic" sainthood BEFORE the election commences. Dead

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cbost6421
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Posted 8/8/2004 9:33 AM (GMT -6)

JCsites,
I studied the free-will verses predestination debate for a year and a half before I move to Minnesota, where I frist heard of Open Theism while attending Minnesota's prime calvinist school, Northwestern College.
BTW, I am a fellow Atlantan! I live in Hampton Just 30 minutes (2 hours with traffic)south of the city. give me an email sometime!
cbost6421@yahoo.com
or visit my website...
www.westga.edu/~stu59980/index.html
-Chuck

stu.westga.edu/~cbost1/openviewtheism.html
"those who pray truly are theologians and those who are theologians pray truly"
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Sisters of Cain
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Posted 8/8/2004 4:09 PM (GMT -6)

Wow, I've been in hell for over 20 years then.

Me and Jesus, in hell. Big Smile

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